Valentini puffer

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Might wanna wait a couple of weeks and make sure your tank catches up to the bioload, since saltwater tanks don't catch up as quick as tropical fresh and since you don't know yet exactly how much the puffer usually eats and spits out and how much that will effect it.
I've made a big mistake adding fish too fast before, then before you know it at the least you're dealing with algae problems.
 
Ok, what type could I do that is large enough not to get picked on, but small enough not to put off too much of a bio load? I was thinking like a orange banded prawn goby or maybe even some sort of watchmen?


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Picked on by the puffer? A puffer really has no consideration for size if they're one of the ones that pick on other fish. They'll bite pieces off of a large moray too.

Most of the gobies aren't gonna be big enough to crash your tank or something, and they're all gonna be fast enough that your puffer picking on them shouldn't be a worry, though I wouldn't get one of the tiny tiny ones because him or your clown *might* eat it.

You mentioned wanting something to sift sand, and the watchmens will do that. I'd stick with a goby that doesn't get over 4" for a 29g, just to keep from taking up space and bioload so you have some room to add corals and other stuff. You won't be able to get one of their shrimp buddies though since your puffer will likely take it as a food source.
 
Awe, I was really hoping for a cleaner shrimp but I guess that won't happen. The Valentini seems pretty nice, he kinda hangs with the clown then goes into his cave. He is even coming out to say hi when I get in the room already! I am going to check out a few gobies tomorrow and see what will work. I was also reading that watchmens get like 5in, so is that too much? I also haven't seen anything saying the prawn goby sand sifts much, but I'll see what this one is doing in my lfs tank.


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ShadowBass said:
Picked on by the puffer? A puffer really has no consideration for size if they're one of the ones that pick on other fish. They'll bite pieces off of a large moray too.

Most of the gobies aren't gonna be big enough to crash your tank or something, and they're all gonna be fast enough that your puffer picking on them shouldn't be a worry, though I wouldn't get one of the tiny tiny ones because him or your clown *might* eat it.

You mentioned wanting something to sift sand, and the watchmens will do that. I'd stick with a goby that doesn't get over 4" for a 29g, just to keep from taking up space and bioload so you have some room to add corals and other stuff. You won't be able to get one of their shrimp buddies though since your puffer will likely take it as a food source.
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I kept a valentini with 2 cleaner shrimp and never had a problem.


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Some of the watchmens might get 5". Not all of them.
 
ckcdrummer said:
I kept a valentini with 2 cleaner shrimp and never had a problem.


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While that may be the case, shrimp are part of their natural diet, so I'm not going to suggest someone else pay good money for a shrimp only to have it eaten. :)

My 20" marblecat doesn't eat fish that he can fit in his mouth either, but that's certainly not the norm.
 
ShadowBass said:
While that may be the case, shrimp are part of their natural diet, so I'm not going to suggest someone else pay good money for a shrimp only to have it eaten. :)

My 20" marblecat doesn't eat fish that he can fit in his mouth either, but that's certainly not the norm.
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Ya maybe it worked because the shrimp were bigger then him and I tried to keep him as well fed as I could


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I have been reading the yellow watchman doesn't sift sand, but I really like the look of them. So do you think I could maybe get a sand sifting star to make up for what he doesn't do?


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I had a yellow watchman and he did some sand sifting while looking for amphipods and stuff.

They're not as efficient as some of the strictly sand sifting gobies, like a dragon (this kind, not the long eel-like ones: http://www.getahugetank.com/images/goby-dragon.jpg) but in a 29g I think they'd help.
The dragons are hell on wheels when it comes to sifting sand (mine kept a 75g turned over), but I think at 6" that's a bit too large for a 29g.

I think starfish would be fine too. Just make sure not to get a chocolate or one of the ones that may predate corals. Most brittle stars at pretty good at it and are safe though. Liveaquaria and some other places sell them with their cleaner kits that you can build yourself. Their kits are actually a pretty good deal.
 
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