Violent crime down....gun ownership up!

[DavidW]

guns won;t protect you from yourself!


http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0805923
average of 46 Americans per day committed suicide with a firearm, accounting for 53% of all completed suicides. Gun suicide..... accounted for 40% more deaths than gun homicide.

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=71736
55% of all gun deaths in the US are suicide

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html
Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.

 

[kamikaziechameleon]

Guns and violent crimes, look at countries without guns and they have even lower violent crimes, look at china, japan...

 

[snot]

I don't need to be protected from myself!
Suicide is not a violent crime it is a mental problem resulting in self inflicted injuries. The two have nothing to do with each other.
People who want to kill themselves will do so by any means guns ropes pills knives tall buildings. You can't blame a gun its a tool


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[Longshot]

BUT BUT BUT I want nanny government to take care of me...like give me a list of things I can do every day, give me a place to sleep...just like in preschool.

Just wait, Big Brother will even chew our food for us in the future and everyone will love it.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

I don't need to be protected from myself!
Suicide is not a violent crime it is a mental problem resulting in self inflicted injuries. The two have nothing to do with each other.
People who want to kill themselves will do so by any means guns ropes pills knives tall buildings. You can't blame a gun its a tool


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Exactly!! Thank u!!

 

[lp85253]

BUT BUT BUT I want nanny government to take care of me...like give me a list of things I can do every day, give me a place to sleep...just like in preschool.

Just wait, Big Brother will even chew our food for us in the future and everyone will love it.

tea anyone?

 

[dogofwar]

The premise of this thread - that higher gun ownership has resulted in lower violent crime rates - is NOT supported by the report posted (it only shows FBI data that violent crime is down).

Seems to support the conclusion that the Obama administration has supported a law enforcement approach that has resulted in less crime and less violent crime, though!

Matt

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

The premise of this thread - that higher gun ownership has resulted in lower violent crime rates - is NOT supported by the report posted (it only shows FBI data that violent crime is down).

Seems to support the conclusion that the Obama administration has supported a law enforcement approach that has resulted in less crime and less violent crime, though!

Matt

Now thats a joke!! Rofl!! The report does show the opposite of what antis such as yourself preach, which is less gun restrictions=increased violence

 

[DavidW]

suicide is illegal and with a gun is violent, therefore it IS a violent crime.

If one bothers to read the links one will also see how guns affect the suicide rates with 'impulse' suicides' that would probably NOT occur without a gun, as well as impulse homicides.

I am not saying guns are good or bad, without human interaction they are an inert object, but simply that , as others have stated , the OP's starting premise is a bit broken, followed by assertions that are contradicted by the facts.

 

[MaddMaxx]

The premise of this thread - that higher gun ownership has resulted in lower violent crime rates - is NOT supported by the report posted (it only shows FBI data that violent crime is down).

Seems to support the conclusion that the Obama administration has supported a law enforcement approach that has resulted in less crime and less violent crime, though!

Matt

I'm confused, the same report that doesn't show lower crime rates, actually does show lower crime rates (but only if it supports Obama)?