scottswald;4024027; said:what sort of budget would you be looking at?
guys..dont you think a fire pit would dirty the water when your cleaning it?
scottswald;4024027; said:what sort of budget would you be looking at?
yeah that would be good if i didn't hate pacus ): I think they look stupid and goofy when they grow upJeox;4024416; said:I'd think pacu would do better and look better.
From above they look identical to huge piranha, get big enough to be raccoon proof, and are hardier.
A heater for something like that would be an enormous amount of money, and it would probably need some sort of tough cover in the winter.
Damn ): Well then i'd make it a spring/summer thing and when it starts getting cold bring them insidewlecount;4024837; said:Michigan? Nope. It's hard enough to keep tanks warm enough during the winter inside. I'm talking around $30 to heat a 220 for my 9 reds in a 65 degree basement. Now imagine doing the same and it's below zero. Hundreds of dollars, that's if you can pump enough heat into the thing just to keep it warm. In ponds that are only a few hundred gallons they use atleast 300 watt heaters just to keep a small hole in the ice, let alone 80 degrees.
Now I like the idea of surrounding your fire pit with a pond, but unless you live somewhere that the temperature stays around 70-80 degrees year round, piranhas are out of the question.
Oooooooooooooooooooo i am loving that idea!!!!KING1307;4034318; said:i like the idea but why dont you just skip the piranha idea get some like sturgeon in there, they could survive you Michigan winters if the ponds deep enough, their a badass fish for sure, they get big and im sure they would take a bite out of whatever goes in there which id assume is your goal here.
and then put the fiberglass so the blood thristy fishies dont get friedclownie33;4023353; said:ahh ok i understand but if it were around an actual firepite that would make it that much more badass