Want to see a MONSTER TANK on MYTH BUSTERS?

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ohhhhhhhhhh i like tht one better ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NEO?????????? what do u think
 
I'm amazed this is even still being discussed. You don't have to test it to know it's false. It's all been said already as to why. First, it would not fit into an aparment door. Period. Second, if it's glass, it is not going into an elevator and up to a fourth floor (even if the elevator was big enough to fit it). The sheer weight of the glass would prevent that. Next, it would break on the first impact of the third floor.....you would not make it to ground level. Again, if it's not glass, it's not going to shatter and disappear.....hell, if it's glass, it's not going to shatter and dissapear, there's glass under the guy supposedly in the tank! Mythbusters would laugh at the thought of this. And no, I don't understand the point of "but it would just be cool to see a monster tank on mythbusters!". They blow all kinds of sh*t up, and you want to get excited at the thought of them crashing a perfectly good aquarium. :screwy::grinno:
 
pdbrady;1658163; said:
I'm amazed this is even still being discussed. You don't have to test it to know it's false. It's all been said already as to why. First, it would not fit into an aparment door. Period. Second, if it's glass, it is not going into an elevator and up to a fourth floor (even if the elevator was big enough to fit it). The sheer weight of the glass would prevent that. Next, it would break on the first impact of the third floor.....you would not make it to ground level. Again, if it's not glass, it's not going to shatter and disappear.....hell, if it's glass, it's not going to shatter and dissapear, there's glass under the guy supposedly in the tank! Mythbusters would laugh at the thought of this. And no, I don't understand the point of "but it would just be cool to see a monster tank on mythbusters!". They blow all kinds of sh*t up, and you want to get excited at the thought of them crashing a perfectly good aquarium. :screwy::grinno:

AGREED!:screwy:
 
pdbrady;1658163; said:
I'm amazed this is even still being discussed. You don't have to test it to know it's false. It's all been said already as to why. First, it would not fit into an aparment door. Period. Second, if it's glass, it is not going into an elevator and up to a fourth floor (even if the elevator was big enough to fit it). The sheer weight of the glass would prevent that. Next, it would break on the first impact of the third floor.....you would not make it to ground level. Again, if it's not glass, it's not going to shatter and disappear.....hell, if it's glass, it's not going to shatter and dissapear, there's glass under the guy supposedly in the tank! Mythbusters would laugh at the thought of this. And no, I don't understand the point of "but it would just be cool to see a monster tank on mythbusters!". They blow all kinds of sh*t up, and you want to get excited at the thought of them crashing a perfectly good aquarium. :screwy::grinno:

first of all it could fit in many double door apartments and the elevator can lift that much glass...I mean we had 15 people! in our crappy elevator and thats more than a well designed empty tank. You have no idea if this is possible.
 
Fish Eat Fish;1659388; said:
first of all it could fit in many double door apartments and the elevator can lift that much glass...I mean we had 15 people! in our crappy elevator and thats more than a well designed empty tank. You have no idea if this is possible.

I don't think that you are aware of how much a tank like that would weigh. Next time you are in an elevator look and see what the max load rating is. We are talking the avarage elevator, the avarage 4th storey apartment, the avarage apartment door. Otherwise I know of appartments that also have metal re-inforced concrete floors with very large freight elevators and barn doors, so what. The whole point is plausibility, not extreme improbability. :screwy:
 
Silven;1659723; said:
I don't think that you are aware of how much a tank like that would weigh. Next time you are in an elevator look and see what the max load rating is. We are talking the avarage elevator, the avarage 4th storey apartment, the avarage apartment door. Otherwise I know of appartments that also have metal re-inforced concrete floors with very large freight elevators and barn doors, so what. The whole point is plausibility, not extreme improbability. :screwy:

Exactly. I personally don't know many apartments with double door entryways. And the balcony doesn't count because it has to come through the front door. Plausibility and improbability are very different. 15 people, most likely not all large males, including yourself if that's you in your avatar, don't match the weight of a tank that size. Try again. And even if it were, you never know, the next time you tried that it could take you to your myth proven death. Don't try to jump before you get to the bottom by the way, they already bounced that myth, too.
 
pdbrady;1658163; said:
Mythbusters would laugh at the thought of this.

Everyone on the Mythbusters site already is. As you said i cant believe this is still being discussed. It just makes MFK look stupid. There is no myth to this. It is completely pointless as is clearly being said by 99% of ppl not coming from this site including the mods over there. Anyone with a slight amount of brain power knows a huge amount of weight will fall through the floor. As i already said on the other exact same thread exactly how much weight is filled with too many variables for any sorta viable test. Maybe if you guys supply them with a massive 4 story building with a custom floor set out in sections with every type of flooring known to be in buildings, and then supplied a couple hundred tanks in all different dimensions and sizes from 100g upto several thousand gallons it could be done but that is just ridiculous to expect.
 
chrisdef15;1663658; said:
Everyone on the Mythbusters site already is. As you said i cant believe this is still being discussed. It just makes MFK look stupid. There is no myth to this. It is completely pointless as is clearly being said by 99% of ppl not coming from this site including the mods over there. Anyone with a slight amount of brain power knows a huge amount of weight will fall through the floor. As i already said on the other exact same thread exactly how much weight is filled with too many variables for any sorta viable test. Maybe if you guys supply them with a massive 4 story building with a custom floor set out in sections with every type of flooring known to be in buildings, and then supplied a couple hundred tanks in all different dimensions and sizes from 100g upto several thousand gallons it could be done but that is just ridiculous to expect.

You my friend have no idea how MythBusters works. Don't even try to argue that you do because you have clearly illustrated that you don't know what you are talking about twice now.

According to Wikipedia:

The tests usually follow a two-step process. Dubbed "replicate the circumstances, then duplicate the results" by Savage, the MythBusters first attempt to recreate the myth to determine if the circumstances as described achieve the alleged outcome. If that fails, they attempt to expand the parameters as much as necessary.

AKA they test the myth under normal circumstances and then expand to less than likely yet still POSSIBLE circumstances. This means a strong tank, weak floor, big cargo elevator (or other means of transport), etc.

it also goes on to say...

The thoroughness to which the MythBusters test myths is often unclear due to the time constraints of the episodes. Adam and Jamie have alluded to this many times on the show, and during the Outtakes Special, they specifically stated that while they in fact are very thorough in testing myths and repeat experiments many times in many different configurations, it is simply impossible to display all of it on the show.


so the "Too many variables" theory is busted its self. Since when was MythBusters anything more than a TV show? I mean its not like they do work for insurance companies! :ROFL:

In fact the requirements for the myth to be given "Plausible" are...

Plausible is given under two circumstances:
  • The myth's results can only be replicated by expanding some parameters of the myth by a realistic and reasonable margin. This may have been due to facts within the myth having been altered slightly over time by it being told and re-told by the time it was tested by the Mythbusters. Also, certain materials may had to have been substituted for others in some cases as a matter of necessity during the course of the myth being tested, but the new materials are almost always very similar to the materials specified and usually are readily available, so as to prevent it from being prohibitively costly or impractical.
  • If there is no documentation of the myth occurring, yet the MythBusters were still able to duplicate it very closely to how the myth was described (such as the myth that states that pirates wore eye patches for enhanced night vision).
SO...according to this the myth in its current form could very possibly receive a "Plausible" after the variables have been tweaked in its favor...just like almost every other "Plausible" myth ever tested on the show.

its a fun myth that would be great fun to watch. If you want to dispute its possibility then great but if your just here to insult then move on because maybe some of us here want to try to make something happen and not just talk trash.
 
Fish Eat Fish;1666504; said:
You my friend have no idea how MythBusters works. Don't even try to argue that you do because you have clearly illustrated that you don't know what you are talking about twice now.

According to Wikipedia:

The tests usually follow a two-step process. Dubbed "replicate the circumstances, then duplicate the results" by Savage, the MythBusters first attempt to recreate the myth to determine if the circumstances as described achieve the alleged outcome. If that fails, they attempt to expand the parameters as much as necessary.

AKA they test the myth under normal circumstances and then expand to less than likely yet still POSSIBLE circumstances. This means a strong tank, weak floor, big cargo elevator (or other means of transport), etc.

it also goes on to say...

The thoroughness to which the MythBusters test myths is often unclear due to the time constraints of the episodes. Adam and Jamie have alluded to this many times on the show, and during the Outtakes Special, they specifically stated that while they in fact are very thorough in testing myths and repeat experiments many times in many different configurations, it is simply impossible to display all of it on the show.


so the "Too many variables" theory is busted its self. Since when was MythBusters anything more than a TV show? I mean its not like they do work for insurance companies! :ROFL:

In fact the requirements for the myth to be given "Plausible" are...

Plausible is given under two circumstances:
  • The myth's results can only be replicated by expanding some parameters of the myth by a realistic and reasonable margin. This may have been due to facts within the myth having been altered slightly over time by it being told and re-told by the time it was tested by the Mythbusters. Also, certain materials may had to have been substituted for others in some cases as a matter of necessity during the course of the myth being tested, but the new materials are almost always very similar to the materials specified and usually are readily available, so as to prevent it from being prohibitively costly or impractical.
  • If there is no documentation of the myth occurring, yet the MythBusters were still able to duplicate it very closely to how the myth was described (such as the myth that states that pirates wore eye patches for enhanced night vision).
SO...according to this the myth in its current form could very possibly receive a "Plausible" after the variables have been tweaked in its favor...just like almost every other "Plausible" myth ever tested on the show.

its a fun myth that would be great fun to watch. If you want to dispute its possibility then great but if your just here to insult then move on because maybe some of us here want to try to make something happen and not just talk trash.

:mwave::werd::mwave:
 
Fish Eat Fish;1666504; said:
You my friend have no idea how MythBusters works. Don't even try to argue that you do because you have clearly illustrated that you don't know what you are talking about twice now.

According to Wikipedia:

The tests usually follow a two-step process. Dubbed "replicate the circumstances, then duplicate the results" by Savage, the MythBusters first attempt to recreate the myth to determine if the circumstances as described achieve the alleged outcome. If that fails, they attempt to expand the parameters as much as necessary.

AKA they test the myth under normal circumstances and then expand to less than likely yet still POSSIBLE circumstances. This means a strong tank, weak floor, big cargo elevator (or other means of transport), etc.

Ok so ya wanna play it like this do you. Ok well what is NORMAL circumstances? Is there a NORMAL floor in all parts of the world or even the US, nope all different? Is there a NORMAL sized or weight tank, no there all different. Im not disputing they will have fun recreating the "myth" im arguing its not a myth in the first place and is impossible to test NORMALLY because what is NORMAL in these circumstances? What you said made no sense BUSTED.

Fish Eat Fish;1666504; said:
it also goes on to say...

The thoroughness to which the MythBusters test myths is often unclear due to the time constraints of the episodes. Adam and Jamie have alluded to this many times on the show, and during the Outtakes Special, they specifically stated that while they in fact are very thorough in testing myths and repeat experiments many times in many different configurations, it is simply impossible to display all of it on the show.

so the "Too many variables" theory is busted its self. Since when was MythBusters anything more than a TV show? I mean its not like they do work for insurance companies! :ROFL:

Yes as you said yourself THEY DO THOROUGHLY TEST IT repeating experiments many many times in different configuration they just dont show it all on TV. Meaning you would have to do exactly what i said and supply them with a huge building with specially made floors with every design of flooring and hundreds of tanks in all different sizes and dimensions. They just wouldnt show it all on TV. Again what your saying is BUSTED.

Fish Eat Fish;1666504; said:
In fact the requirements for the myth to be given "Plausible" are...

Plausible is given under two circumstances:
  • The myth's results can only be replicated by expanding some parameters of the myth by a realistic and reasonable margin. This may have been due to facts within the myth having been altered slightly over time by it being told and re-told by the time it was tested by the Mythbusters. Also, certain materials may had to have been substituted for others in some cases as a matter of necessity during the course of the myth being tested, but the new materials are almost always very similar to the materials specified and usually are readily available, so as to prevent it from being prohibitively costly or impractical.
  • If there is no documentation of the myth occurring, yet the MythBusters were still able to duplicate it very closely to how the myth was described (such as the myth that states that pirates wore eye patches for enhanced night vision).
SO...according to this the myth in its current form could very possibly receive a "Plausible" after the variables have been tweaked in its favor...just like almost every other "Plausible" myth ever tested on the show.
its a fun myth that would be great fun to watch. If you want to dispute its possibility then great but if your just here to insult then move on because maybe some of us here want to try to make something happen and not just talk trash.

Again no one is diputing its not plausible. Anyone with a brain knows it could be true. That is the point. Its not a myth. The story you originally gave has no accuracy to it. How big was the guy elevator? What where the dimensions of the tank? Was was it made out of? That is nothing like the pirate myth which has no real variables. All you need is a few ppl with decent vision and an eye patch. Again BUSTED.
 
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