Warrior Flowerhorn?
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So basically, warrior Flowerhorn is either made up , or a way to sell low grades? This one for sale was at bluegrass aquatics for $13.99
I know mine isn’t a pure Trimac because there is too much red and some pearling, can’t really see the pearling in the pic though
Yeah, it's not a trimac, it's just heavy on trimac genes.
BTW - my comments are in no way a shot at the OP's fish. My advice is to enjoy your flowerhorn, and not be concerned with what type, or name, is attached to the fish. It's all good, as long as you are happy with what you got, for what you paid.
As far as the name "warrior", it sounds like this name may have originated with imports that Segrest Farms in FL were distributing years back. The thread below is from almost 7 yrs ago.
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
HTH
BTW - my comments are in no way a shot at the OP's fish. My advice is to enjoy your flowerhorn, and not be concerned with what type, or name, is attached to the fish. It's all good, as long as you are happy with what you got, for what you paid.
As far as the name "warrior", it sounds like this name may have originated with imports that Segrest Farms in FL were distributing years back. The thread below is from almost 7 yrs ago.
Warrior Flowerhorn?
A LFS just got in a nice 4" Red "Warrior" Flowerhorn. They're selling it for $12.99 (they ordered it from Segrest). I've done some researching/reading, and haven't been able to locate much info on this strain. However, I did find two websites that sell this FH strain (Bluegrass Aquatics and...
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
HTH
Thanks for that info, I really wanted an SRD, but I’m finding my current FH pretty interesting. I don’t believe in culling when there are plenty of people and shops that take unwanted fish. So I’m thinking either I’ll rehome this guy and buy a nice SRD from EA or keep this one and set up another tank.Yeah, it's not a trimac, it's just heavy on trimac genes.
BTW - my comments are in no way a shot at the OP's fish. My advice is to enjoy your flowerhorn, and not be concerned with what type, or name, is attached to the fish. It's all good, as long as you are happy with what you got, for what you paid.
As far as the name "warrior", it sounds like this name may have originated with imports that Segrest Farms in FL were distributing years back. The thread below is from almost 7 yrs ago.
Warrior Flowerhorn?
A LFS just got in a nice 4" Red "Warrior" Flowerhorn. They're selling it for $12.99 (they ordered it from Segrest). I've done some researching/reading, and haven't been able to locate much info on this strain. However, I did find two websites that sell this FH strain (Bluegrass Aquatics and...
HTH
I posted the following here on MFK, 10 years ago, and I think that for the most part it still holds true today.
As far as the name game, with FH I simply go by what the breeder calls the fish. If he calls it a Oranged Eyed Mo Fo, that's fine by me, as the chances of ever knowing with 100% certainty what the genetic make up is of each so called "strain" of FH is like playing genetic Russian roulette. The ZZ traits that one might see in a fish could have come from one of the parents, or several generations back. Only the breeder would know when or where ZZ had been introduced. As far as that goes, they may not even know.
Typically when it comes to creating new hybrid strains of fish in aquaculture, the goal is to create a strain that will throw 100% of the offspring exactly like the parents. As an example, in African cichlids the Red Zebra OB strain is a man made morph. I know the person that created it many years ago and he spent many years developing that strain & didn't release it to the public until his fish bred 99.99% true. Others who created hybrid crosses released them too early, and every once in a while you end up with some offspring that look nothing like the parents, but look exactly like the original fish used to create the new strain.
With FH's it doesn't always work that way (as in same strain parents do not typically breed true), it's all a random mumbo jumbo of genes, which is why in a spawn of 200-300 fry there's no telling with any real certainty what they will all end up looking like when they mature.
It's also why out of a spawn that size you may only end up with a few real masterpieces, or none at all. It's genetic Russian roulette, and the odds are not always in the houses favor. Certainly many strains of FH have been worked with enough to fix certain traits in each strain, but there will always be juvies that are genetic throw backs to earlier generations. So you sort out the best, and cull the rest. It's also why the masterpiece specimens cost some serious coin, as they are not produced in consistent mass numbers.
The fish below is a prime example. Sold by a Thai breeder as a "Red Diamond". If I told people that I bought it from a breeder in Vietnam, and it was sold to me as a Tan King, who could argue?
It could very well be a ZZ x Kamfa, and the Thai breeder simply thought that the name "Red Diamond" added some sex appeal, and removed the chance of his Thai fish being confused with a strain originally created by a breeder in 'Nam. Who knows?
My advice, give your brain a rest, when it comes to FH it's not worth nit picking over strains or names. Just keep the fish that you personally like the most.
As far as the name game, with FH I simply go by what the breeder calls the fish. If he calls it a Oranged Eyed Mo Fo, that's fine by me, as the chances of ever knowing with 100% certainty what the genetic make up is of each so called "strain" of FH is like playing genetic Russian roulette. The ZZ traits that one might see in a fish could have come from one of the parents, or several generations back. Only the breeder would know when or where ZZ had been introduced. As far as that goes, they may not even know.
Typically when it comes to creating new hybrid strains of fish in aquaculture, the goal is to create a strain that will throw 100% of the offspring exactly like the parents. As an example, in African cichlids the Red Zebra OB strain is a man made morph. I know the person that created it many years ago and he spent many years developing that strain & didn't release it to the public until his fish bred 99.99% true. Others who created hybrid crosses released them too early, and every once in a while you end up with some offspring that look nothing like the parents, but look exactly like the original fish used to create the new strain.
With FH's it doesn't always work that way (as in same strain parents do not typically breed true), it's all a random mumbo jumbo of genes, which is why in a spawn of 200-300 fry there's no telling with any real certainty what they will all end up looking like when they mature.
It's also why out of a spawn that size you may only end up with a few real masterpieces, or none at all. It's genetic Russian roulette, and the odds are not always in the houses favor. Certainly many strains of FH have been worked with enough to fix certain traits in each strain, but there will always be juvies that are genetic throw backs to earlier generations. So you sort out the best, and cull the rest. It's also why the masterpiece specimens cost some serious coin, as they are not produced in consistent mass numbers.
The fish below is a prime example. Sold by a Thai breeder as a "Red Diamond". If I told people that I bought it from a breeder in Vietnam, and it was sold to me as a Tan King, who could argue?
It could very well be a ZZ x Kamfa, and the Thai breeder simply thought that the name "Red Diamond" added some sex appeal, and removed the chance of his Thai fish being confused with a strain originally created by a breeder in 'Nam. Who knows?
My advice, give your brain a rest, when it comes to FH it's not worth nit picking over strains or names. Just keep the fish that you personally like the most.
Thanks, I was just trying to figure out what mine was going to look like as an adult and if I should give up on it turning out how I was hoping for since it has changed a lot from when I first got it, but it’s still a long ways from what I was expecting. I’ll probably give him/her another month to decide if I’m going to keep it or buy a anotherI posted the following here on MFK, 10 years ago, and I think that for the most part it still holds true today.
As far as the name game, with FH I simply go by what the breeder calls the fish. If he calls it a Oranged Eyed Mo Fo, that's fine by me, as the chances of ever knowing with 100% certainty what the genetic make up is of each so called "strain" of FH is like playing genetic Russian roulette. The ZZ traits that one might see in a fish could have come from one of the parents, or several generations back. Only the breeder would know when or where ZZ had been introduced. As far as that goes, they may not even know.
Typically when it comes to creating new hybrid strains of fish in aquaculture, the goal is to create a strain that will throw 100% of the offspring exactly like the parents. As an example, in African cichlids the Red Zebra OB strain is a man made morph. I know the person that created it many years ago and he spent many years developing that strain & didn't release it to the public until his fish bred 99.99% true. Others who created hybrid crosses released them too early, and every once in a while you end up with some offspring that look nothing like the parents, but look exactly like the original fish used to create the new strain.
With FH's it doesn't always work that way (as in same strain parents do not typically breed true), it's all a random mumbo jumbo of genes, which is why in a spawn of 200-300 fry there's no telling with any real certainty what they will all end up looking like when they mature.
It's also why out of a spawn that size you may only end up with a few real masterpieces, or none at all. It's genetic Russian roulette, and the odds are not always in the houses favor. Certainly many strains of FH have been worked with enough to fix certain traits in each strain, but there will always be juvies that are genetic throw backs to earlier generations. So you sort out the best, and cull the rest. It's also why the masterpiece specimens cost some serious coin, as they are not produced in consistent mass numbers.
The fish below is a prime example. Sold by a Thai breeder as a "Red Diamond". If I told people that I bought it from a breeder in Vietnam, and it was sold to me as a Tan King, who could argue?
It could very well be a ZZ x Kamfa, and the Thai breeder simply thought that the name "Red Diamond" added some sex appeal, and removed the chance of his Thai fish being confused with a strain originally created by a breeder in 'Nam. Who knows?
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My advice, give your brain a rest, when it comes to FH it's not worth nit picking over strains or names. Just keep the fish that you personally like the most.
You can never know how they will look like at early stages except in red dragons, they mostly end up half red half grey/yellow. There is another thread here where juvenile fh looked like red dragon but later faded all black markings.
That’s kind of what my take away is from this thread. I’m giving it more time because it has improved so much from when I first got it 7 weeks ago. Here’s a pic from day one
You can absolutely have an idea of what a young flowerhorn will grow to look like once you've actually had experience raising some...
Warrior fh lol, I prefer orange eye mofo. This thing is a cull from people who should not be in the flowerhorn business.
Warrior fh lol, I prefer orange eye mofo. This thing is a cull from people who should not be in the flowerhorn business.
