Warrior Flowerhorn?

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do you eat just some decent human bread everyday, all your life?

Not sure what your point is, but a good quality pellet not only contains the correct amino & fatty acids, but also in the correct balance, for a fish. Amino acids = protein, in case you were wondering. The difference between that, and what you suggest, is that flowerhorns are not carnivorous, they are omnivores, based on many generations of omnivorous species used to breed them and create all of the various strains. They don't require mammal meat of any kind, ever. These fish are hard wired to get their protein/fat from a variety of fish, zooplankton, insects, and their larvae, and aquatic plant matter. Add to that a quality vitamin/mineral premix, and most fish eat better than the majority of people living in 3rd world countries.

Save the chicken for the barbecue. :thumbsup:
 
Feed only okiko platinum pellets twice or thrice a day. Most FH groomers for competition use okiko platinum.. if you can coat spirulina powder on the pellets once a day twice a week, his colours and digestion will improve too. Also give him meaty treats like cleaned chicken( fat and blood clots removed) heart one or twice a week. :)

Definetly not an good idea. Most (to be frank all) flowerhorn groomers don't care about the actual health of the fish but rather looks. Do they disect the fish when it dies? Brands like NLS, hikari have better knowledge about the food requirments and about long term health effects. RD. shared a very interesting post on feeding beef heart

I posted the following last year in response to the feeding beefheart to fish question .......



Fish aren't hard wired to assimilate the fatty acids found in beef, chicken, etc anymore than they are hard wired to assimilate large amounts of carbs. These excess lipids get stored in & around the organs, and eventually shorten the fishes lifespan. Can these foodstuffs offer amino acids, and solid growth, yes, no question about that, but that doesn't qualify them as being a good source of food for a fish.

Even a lot of the major discus keepers have moved away from beefheart over the past decade, for these exact reasons. It's a great food for breeders that simply want quick growth in their juvie fish (so they can take them to market quicker) but it is most certainly not an ideal long term diet. Lee Newman, Curator of Tropical Waters at the Vancouver Public Aquarium has spoken out against feeding beefheart many times, for the same reason as I do, it tends to lead to fatty degeneration of the liver.

Dr. Peter Burgess MSc, Ph.D.,of the Aquarium Advisory Service in England, is not only an experienced aquarium hobbyist, but also a scientist that specializes in the health & disease in fish. He has written over 300 articles and five books on fish health and is a visiting lecturer in Aquarium Sciences and Conservation at Plymouth University, where he works with the University of Plymouth training students in scientific research. Among his other positions, Dr. Burgess is a senior consultant to the Mars FishCare business and regularly runs fish health & husbandry courses for aquarists, fish scientists and vets. He's also a regular contributor & Fish Health consultant for the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine, as well as other magazines devoted to the fish keeping hobby.

Below is an excerpt from the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine and written by Dr. Burgess, titled;


Liver Damage and Red Meats

"The routine of feeding beef heart and other red meats to Cichlids can ultimately give rise to health problems. Poultry meat is also suspect. Red meats, including lean meats such as beef heart, contain the wrong sorts of fats - these harden within the cold-blooded fish, leading to blockages and fatty deposits around the liver.

Also, the relative proportions of amino acids within the mammalian proteins are different to those required by fish. Hence, feeding red meats will cause the cichlid to excrete more nitrogenous (ammonia) wastes, thereby placing an extra burden on the biological filter."


Add to that, FH are not carnivores, and their digestion system is not designed to digest large amounts of protein, no matter the source of that protein. There is no need to feed a FH prawn, tilapia, etc. If you feel the need to supplement their diet with live food, feed them some vegetable matter.

do you eat just some decent human bread everyday, all your life? :D

Nope because bread is not a complete food for human like high quality pallet would be for a fish. Pallets are not made up of a single thing read the ingredients on Hikari Bio gold plus or any NLS product. And if you are concenrend about the fish getting bored of same food then you are wrong there.
 
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Ask RD haha

You actually mentioned the bread, so you should know.

I don't think the conversation is constructive anymore. You are just trolling without a fair point. RD. is a person with much more experience and knowledge than you and me. He would still listen and be open to new rational idea. RD. can provide supporting published papers or articles from well qualified people (example was there when I quoted him).

The first step to learning is accepting when we got something wrong. Rest is up to you.
 
You actually mentioned the bread, so you should know.

I don't think the conversation is constructive anymore. You are just trolling without a fair point. RD. is a person with much more experience and knowledge than you and me. He would still listen and be open to new rational idea. RD. can provide supporting published papers or articles from well qualified people (example was there when I quoted him).

The first step to learning is accepting when we got something wrong. Rest is up to you.
Bro I’m just playin, why so serious? RD is my dads age, I’m not trolling him or even try to.
 
No it’s alright you’ll get there someday :D

I laughed really, this might be better one or I have improved a little and thank you but I would rather focus on topic than trying to make fun of others when they object my baseless claim.
 
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