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CFLfish;3819699; said:
On the Island, in between two rivers.
I grew up on Merritt Island.
CFLfish;3820657; said:
...ignorant people like you... ...and save yourself some embarrassment buddy.... ...this guy's a real winner huh? ^
When you are civil others will be civil with you, but if you insult everyone, they will remember. You've directly insulted three good people in this post. I think that might be a record.
CFLfish;3820701; said:
...my house in cocoa beach, Fl...
You ain't from The Island, poser. :grinno:
CFLfish;3820701; said:
...with all the Mayan cichlids living in almost 100% salt water.... ...If you don't believe me...
I've sampled both the Indian and Banana Rivers. And no, it isn't even close to 100% marine salt. It's brackish (actually common knowledge).

I think you may be confusing Sailors Choice or Sheepshead for Mayans. Mayans aren't established this far north and won't survive the winters. See if this is the fish you are refering too.
http://www.myfwc.com/WILDLIFEHABITATS/Nonnative_FW_MayanCichlid.htm
 
"I've sampled both the Indian and Banana Rivers. And no, it isn't even close to 100% marine salt. It's brackish "

What do you find in Brackish water?

Any specific natives just found there ?
 
CFLfish;3820798; said:
No. No elimination. That would hurt to many things. I just hope "we'' don't introduce anymore species. Thats all.


I think these fish have taken decades if not longer to establish. Who knows how long some have been here.

I cant see anything else becoming established and fishermen themselves kill what they think is dangerous .

Though I did email FWC to suggest they consider stocking the waters with Arapiama Gigas :nilly: lol I am just kidding now those would be bad.

In my area the cold kill has been brutal . 2 block canal from my house is 100% barren other than mosquito fish.
 
CHOMPERS;3821076; said:
I grew up on Merritt Island.

It's easy to hide behind a computer screen, blah blah blah. Get the picture? There will come a day when you are civil and want others to be civil with you, but if you insult everyone, they will remember. You've directly insulted three good people in this post. I think that might be a record.

You ain't from The Island, poser. :grinno:
I've sampled both the Indian and Banana Rivers. And no, it isn't even close to 100% marine salt. It's brackish (actually common knowledge).

I think you may be confusing Sailors Choice or Sheepshead for Mayans. Mayans aren't established this far north and won't survive the winters. See if this is the fish you are refering too.
http://www.myfwc.com/WILDLIFEHABITATS/Nonnative_FW_MayanCichlid.htm

I'm not going to get into it with a local. That's just common courtesy. And yes, i grew up on the Island and currently live here now. It's just easier to use CB as a reference point. And you seem to forget that both the Indian and Banana River are fed directly from the ocean via Port Canaveral Locks, Sebastian Inlet to the south, and Ponce Inlet to the north. This causes the water to be predominately salt. And by a good margin i might add. You might want to speak with a local marine biologist to confirm. The rest of your post is a mute point to me as my previous post do not involve you. Now, if your local and wanna talk fish or cast a line, shoot me a pm.
 
Louie;3821116; said:
What do you find in Brackish water?
Lots of salt, mostly. :D I couldn't resist.

Pretty much anything that you'd find in the intercoatal, you will find in the Indian & Banana Rivers. Some favorites growing up were blue crab and shrimp. We had sea horses in our canal but I think those days are over. There are still pipefish (close cousins to sea horses) in there. Redfish and specled trout are among the top game fish. Blue and channel cats are common bottom feeders. Atlantic stingrays are everywhere (caught a huge one as a kid that was about four feet across). There are puffers of every kind too. The list goes on and on (brings back tons of memories though).

Louie;3821116; said:
Any specific natives just found there ?
I'm drawing a blank fish-wise. As a kid, Green Anoles were everywhere and you never saw any Cubans. Now the Cubans are everywhere...and there is this little brown lizzard... :D (trying to make a joke). Anyway, they say that the Cuban Anoles eat the baby Greens, so that is why the Green populations are so low now.
 
Louie;3821031; said:
Usually around here Dec to Feb you rarely see them and they dont bite much so hard to tell.

There are some very deep areas that held temps so some lived but how many again till March/April hard to say.

I meant to ask you. Did you have a heater for them or it was fairly deep pond?

I had heater for my firemouths and jewels but when it got to steady 40s at night brought them in as didnt trust the heaters.

My brother in law has a lake by his house lots of red feeder type platys and all lived go figure.

Yea I had a heater and drained the 55 to about 35 gallons but no luck, its funny cause it seems in the canals more mayans and tilapia died than pbass but in my tank my mayans and tilapia lived when both my pbass died.
And about the pbass in the wild, they just made it this far north this year so I'm unaware of their winter habits, I'm thinking the cold may lead them to be only in the dade county area again, thatd be no good, they just made a nice population here.
 
Anyway, they say that the Cuban Anoles eat the baby Greens, so that is why the Green populations are so low now.[/QUOTE]

Yea I heard that as well, also the curly tails that are here now are eating both.
 
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