MN_Rebel;3893281; said:
Your right. Whats there not to understand about what he said? I think what he said was pretty straight forward...
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Your right. Whats there not to understand about what he said? I think what he said was pretty straight forward...
Maybe people keep saying the same thing because if conservationist, state biologists, and enviromentalist actually agree on something......chances are theyre probably right! At least we know for sure they have a lot of FACTS at their disposal.arowfan;3891438;3891438 said:not sure if you've been following this this thread, but your statement has already been made about 5 times or so-I've lost count...
MultispeciesTamer;3892032; said:the point keeps coming up becuse its the right way
we all know your point, as well as warmouths-the point I was trying to make was-ever heard of beating a dead horse?
All I want to know is, since it started getting cold again, have there been any more dead fish?
warmouth;3891393; said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louie
lol than dont ever move to Miami . The illegal fishing here is unreal. MOST no license and anything they catch they keep.
Non native fish here arent the problem as far as natives go its the Miami fishermen . N.Florida is a whole different world they catch and release.
Surprised Manatees here arent harpooned and eaten.
I understand some in this forum dont like cichlids so we agree to disagree on that but the unreal fishing of native LMB even turtles,etc in Miami is staggering.
I love Cichlids in the aquarium where they belong (I have owned Oscars and convicts), ;exotics (of any kind) do not beloing in our lakes and rivers displacing natives, upsetting ecosystems and spreading foreign diseases! We are not the only ones suffering from exotic fish introductions, Germany's native fish are losing space and forage from out Pumpkinseed sunfish, and Japan is fighting an invasion of our LMB's and Bluegill I believe exotic fish should STAY IN OUR AQUARIUMS the more exotics that get loose and wreak havoc on our ecosystem the more anti-fishkeeping legislation congress will approve (I surely hope you dont want that)! WHEN IT COMES TO EXOTICSS "LETS KEEP THEM IN OUR TANKS, AND EAT THEM IN OUR RIVERS AND LAKES!"
Thats all nice to say but down here it is a part of life. I like how everyone is saying that they have no place in the rivers and you are right but unfortunately they are here and are part of the ecology. This thread was started by stating the devastation that occured by the cold spell. No one is arguing that they dont belong we are talking about the ones that are there. There are so many generations of these fish Mayan Tilapia Salvini Plecos they ARE native NOW. I have a picture from 1982 of an Oscar my dad caught and didnt know what it was because I wasnt into fish keeping.
arowfan;3891438; said:not sure if you've been following this this thread, but your statement has already been made about 5 times or so-I've lost count...
I agree... ITs nice that they think that but its a perfect world. Kind of like No Crime in the cities, Or no homelessness , or the such. Its part of life that is not going to change no matter how much you change things.
MultispeciesTamer;3892032; said:the point keeps coming up becuse its the right way
Its great but it is off topic. The topic was the devastation of the exotics from the cold spell. I can tell you I dont fish for Bass or Bream in South Florida. That bores me. I fish for the exotics and what I can see.
I have not seen any more deaths on my end. Ive been looking in the canals. Saw a few more gators farther east though than normal. Nice 12 footer (gator) at Pine Island Road and 595. Which would be 10 miles out from the first corner of the glades.
Robbwilder;3894668; said:
I hear what your saying. There are always going to be ignorant dumb asses' that release exotics animals into the wild. We understand that. Hell, I know there are people who posted in this thread that have released exotics. Oh well.
Also, I've seen two more dead snook and 1 dead tarpon. I live in central Florida, on th east coast. There are no more cichlids alive anywhere in my area (thank god they finally all died). Water temp today is 52 in the Banana and Indian rivers. Temperature measeurements were takin with my boats bottom finder. The temperture I read when I went cobia fishing 3 days ago, all the way out to 15 miles, was anywhere from 55 to 58.8 degrees F. Very cold water with no fish caught. It was a nice booze cruise though...
megalops///;3894793; said:I live in central Florida, on th east coast. There are no more cichlids alive anywhere in my area (thank god they finally all died). Water temp today is 52 in the Banana and Indian rivers...
How's living in the island between two rivers?
arowfan;3894749; said:
Ive seen NO cichlids Period in my canals that I frequent. Im not saying they are not there but there is NOTHING exotic. Only Sun/Panfish, Largemouths and Gar. Mosquitofish and Mollies also. Nothing exotic as of yet. Begin of March I get a half day of work and I am going to get my pole out of the garage and throw the line. See what I can catch...
The release of exotics is a problem but not as big as one might think. In alot of the places that I have fished I have never seen anything more than Oscar (almost an endangered exotic species in central Broward County) Tilapia, Mayan, Acara, Pleco Walking Catfish and Salvini. These have all been in the waters here for a long long time. Nature has a way of purging the canals when needed like these cold fronts. Even the Mayans serve a purpose. Alot of the cane pole fishing people do result in them cathing just mayans and juvie Tilapia and alot less bream/panfish as these are more aggresive to the bait. It keeps the natives from being over fished out of the canals and thins exotic population. It all evens out.
