What are your thoughts on fish like Pacu being sold

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So there it is, exactly what I figured. If you guys want to fight the good fight, you better understand who the enemy is, and how their minds work. It's always about invasive species, even if they aren't. 10 million dead pacu & oscars later, no one will still care.

I get it man. If these threads were about invasives id sit back and learn a thing or two. Ive said it already i dont have enough info to have an informed opinion.

Thats said what they are talking about is regulations based on the size of the fish.
 
No one cares about the size of a tropical fish, unless their barbecue is too small to cook it. You are all arguing/debating about nothing, but hey, knock yourself out.


What Viktor brought up, is key to any/all restrictions that may or may not currently, or in the future, affect fish bought and sold in the pet trade. Something that IMHO is worth discussing.

Like it or not, all of these threads that discuss potential tropical fish restrictions center around invasive species. That was my point the last time we did this dance.
 
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Idk man all the permit and reg talk was based off proper care. Cant deny the comments made earlier. They seem to care deeply.

But agreed turned into a pointless argument or discussion
 
Idk man all the permit and reg talk was based off proper care. Cant deny the comments made earlier. They seem to care deeply.

But agreed turned into a pointless argument or discussion
Sorta went all over the place. I agree, that's a wrap. Did enjoy the opinions and input. Even if I didn't agree. All in all MFK people a good group.
Wouldn't mind hoisting a beer with everybody. We all have our differences!
 
What Viktor brought up, is key to any/all restrictions that may or may not currently, or in the future, affect fish bought and sold in the pet trade. Something that IMHO is worth discussing.

Like it or not, all of these threads that discuss potential tropical fish restrictions center around invasive species. That was my point the last time we did this dance.
Why is this ? How come the two subjects invasive and proper care or what ever the ornamental side of the arguement is called are soo closely related ? Is it that one just brings attention to the other ?
 
Why is this ? How come the two subjects invasive and proper care or what ever the ornamental side of the arguement is called are soo closely related ? Is it that one just brings attention to the other ?

Because no governing body cares about the proper care of a tropical fish. Many people still have the mindset of flushing a dead fish down the toilet as a normal disposal method. If that was a puppy, or kitten, people would lose their sheet. Like I said previously the regulations regarding pet fish in the trade, including food, etc, are lax, and always have been. If around the globe a few million wild fish die in the collection process, oh well, if 10's of millions die in a LFS after being netted and shipped from all points on the globe, umm, so what. If 3 dogs die due to what some consumer feels is a tainted bag of dog food, class action lawsuits are filed. It's just a reality, tropical fish have almost zero value to most people, including the vast majority that shop at big box stores. Just ask GS how that plays out at the Petco that he works at.

So while discussing possible regs and rules and/or potential size restrictions etc about tropical hobby fish sold at the LFS, or online, is all good and well, it's just fantasy talk that will never result in anything, unless those tropical fish come under the invasive species magnifying glass. That's when bad things can happen, with real consequences that are already taking place and that are already affecting members of MFK.
 
No one cares about the size of a tropical fish, unless their barbecue is too small to cook it. You are all arguing/debating about nothing, but hey, knock yourself out.


What Viktor brought up, is key to any/all restrictions that may or may not currently, or in the future, affect fish bought and sold in the pet trade. Something that IMHO is worth discussing.

Like it or not, all of these threads that discuss potential tropical fish restrictions center around invasive species. That was my point the last time we did this dance.


It is clear that governments only care about invasive species and not animal welfare but the problem for both has its deeper roots in how everyone feels about fish on a personal level..If you think plastic for example,all fish are in danger.....When we don't care for the wellbeing of each individual fish,we also do not tend to care for the bigger picture either,wheather its about invasive species or polluted waters..
 
It is clear that governments only care about invasive species and not animal welfare but the problem for both has its deeper roots in how everyone feels about fish on a personal level..If you think plastic for example,all fish are in danger.....When we don't care for the wellbeing of each individual fish,we also do not tend to care for the bigger picture either,wheather its about invasive species or polluted waters..
I agree that education can't hurt.
 
Because no governing body cares about the proper care of a tropical fish. Many people still have the mindset of flushing a dead fish down the toilet as a normal disposal method. If that was a puppy, or kitten, people would lose their sheet. Like I said previously the regulations regarding pet fish in the trade, including food, etc, are lax, and always have been. If around the globe a few million wild fish die in the collection process, oh well, if 10's of millions die in a LFS after being netted and shipped from all points on the globe, umm, so what. If 3 dogs die due to what some consumer feels is a tainted bag of dog food, class action lawsuits are filed. It's just a reality, tropical fish have almost zero value to most people, including the vast majority that shop at big box stores. Just ask GS how that plays out at the Petco that he works at.

So while discussing possible regs and rules and/or potential size restrictions etc about tropical hobby fish sold at the LFS, or online, is all good and well, it's just fantasy talk that will never result in anything, unless those tropical fish come under the invasive species magnifying glass. That's when bad things can happen, with real consequences that are already taking place and that are already affecting members of MFK.
This makes a lot of sense. Just for my understanding: so you think the fish rights movement will never get traction?
 
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