what is this bass

[teleost]

Listen teleost, you were certain that there was no scientific evidence of a bass eating a mouse whereas before i could respnd with plenty of books on bass fishing that I have read and websites stating clearly that large mouth bass( being the voracious predators they are) do in fact eat mice.

Wrong
I said:

I'll bet you can't find a single scientific report showing any rodent of any kind showing up in a single wild specimen of any Microperous.

If Bass eat rodents often, this should be an easy challenge.

This was in reply to:

they actually eat rodents quite often.

AND i would like to clear up that my bass does not eat mice or rats I stricktly feed him pellets and krill nothing live. I would feel bad dipping a mouse in that water and i would never do it. But if someone does it for the bass and because they want to include a mammal in their diet Im fine with that. But childish feedings on tape with a retard in the back round dancing around is not what i support. that in fact is wrong.
I hope i cleared something up guys.

I read you loud and clear. I don't think I had directed any comment directly at you BTW.

I still say mammals are not part of the diet of bass. If a single published report of a single rodent can be produced (which might very well exist) and verified (in other words a report that has a signed author which can be verified).....I'll send two free native fish of my choice to any lower 48 states free of charge (provided it's within the recipients state laws).

 

[hurricane_redbone]

I dont think its childish at all. I mean why do people keep predatorial fish instead of boring little gups and stuff?
Because they have totally different personality and behaviour, part of which is their hunting style. I find it fascinating to watch fish hunt, I would also try to feed a bass a mouse and watch. However, the bass is a little on the small side to be feeding a mouse that size. but other than that I wouldnt say its childish...

 

[dredcon]

Just to stir the fire

From

Soupir, C. A., Brown M. L., and Kallemeyn, L. W. 2000. Trophic ecology of largemouth bass and northern pike in allopatric and sympatric assemblages in
northern boreal lakes. Can. J. Zool. 78: 1759–1766.

 

[Lrry93]

An aquatic rat?


This is true.



I could not find the authors name associated with that study...Oh it's not a study..just some guy guessing that rodents like to take a dip in the water with large bass. I'm sure it happens from time to time but I have yet to see a single study that once shows a bass has actually been captured with a rodent in it's gut content.



Owned? I'll just guess that most people that feed live mice to fish that are clearly designed to feed on aquatic prey items have size issues below the belt.
I'd guess you compensate you lacking manhood by showing the world how tough you are by this sophisticated/mature activity.



I've been bass fishing for quite a while longer than you and I've yet to see a bass eat a single warm blooded animal. I'm sure it happens but they simply are not a normal part of their diet. The only terrestrial things I've seen bass eat are insects. I'm sure a large enough bass would eat a hedgehog if given the chance since they're opportunistic feeders.


I thought you just said ...."I am not saying I agree with what they feed the LMB"


Did you throw it in the water?


This behavior is extremely childish and mildly sadistic as well.


Like comparing apples to oranges. I'm sure if you breed super tiny monkeys they'd make great fish food.


It's not a show of the times..Many don't want this hobby to be taken over by a bunch of stupids kids that like to take sadistic videos of their bass eating small mammals for no apparent reason other than personal gratification.

I would reply to your comments but most of them have nothing to do with the conversation. "tiny monkeys"??????? By the way I have seen a bass eat a mouse in the shallows with the cat tails . I have also seen them hit ducklings, and eat very large frogs.
I guess feeding chicken and mice to pirahna is wrong as well????
for the record the kid in the background is a retard but it also looks like that was in a fairly large fishroom with multiple tanks. Probably an adults fish.

 

[Lrry93]

try using google. Heres your articles
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/youth/news/story?page=b_youth_BassEat_JrBMM_0106

http://www.limnology.wisc.edu/K_12_pub_cwh.html

http://www.gameandfishmag.com/fishing/bass-fishing/RA_0506_04/ and many more suporting studies can be found.

This pic is a painting of an actual photo. I cant find the photo now but this is the reason Hawaii wont let hybrid bass into the state. They are afraid it will eat native birds

 

[GJC]

Nice finds Lrry93 and dredcon

 

[adamstv]

i think this argumant is officially settled... We said they ate mice in the wild teleost didnt believe us. He wanted scientific evidence that had a publisher well there it is. Theres no arguing this one anymore.

 

[teleost]

Just to stir the fire

From

Soupir, C. A., Brown M. L., and Kallemeyn, L. W. 2000. Trophic ecology of largemouth bass and northern pike in allopatric and sympatric assemblages in
northern boreal lakes. Can. J. Zool. 78: 1759–1766.

Good Work Dredcon. I knew it had to exist somewhere. As you can see by Dred's data, mammals aren't eaten "quite commonly" as I was told above. BTW the "quite commonly" response was my reason for getting in this thread. At best you could say mammals are incidental in the diet of Bass even in Voyageurs national park! In case you've never been there in summer, mice are so abundant, I promise you'd have a hard time just walking and not crushing them under foot.

Since you were such a good sport Dredcon you can pick the species of two free fish and I'll send the out free fish and shipping.

Lrry93,

Good info as well. Also a good sport but I'm not sure I can legally send you native fish (Since you live in Hawaii). I know you're not in the lower 48 but maybe we can work something out. I'll send you two fish of your choice (if I can make sure it's legal and we can come to terms on the shipping)....Maybe I'll pay for what it costs to Cali and you pick up the rest?

No more free fish as I have the data I was looking for.


Adamstv:

i think this argumant is officially settled... We said they ate mice in the wild teleost didnt believe us. He wanted scientific evidence that had a publisher well there it is. Theres no arguing this one anymore.

You still don't get it do you?

I said:

I'm sure it happens from time to time

I also said:

I'm sure it happens but they simply are not a normal part of their diet.

I guess you didn't bother to read the above before you posted Adamstv? It's obvious I believed it happed just not often. In both cases the bass are in special circumstances..

Since theres no arguing anymore that bass eat mice "quite commonly" I'd like to suggest everyone go out buy mice at five to six times the price per pound over feeder fish and watch them suffer. This sounds like adult entertainment at it's best. While you're at it make sure and take a video of it and post it on youtube. As a favor to me would please include a shot of the trailer park you live in along with your mullet haircut......

 

[Lrry93]

much of nothing is legal to bring in and Im not worried about it. Thanks for the offer though.

 

[Chad55]

Well I think this finally settles the great debate once and for all. I used to be on the side of the majority saying that one small mouse would not hurt a LMB, but I have to say that I totally support teleost now. Personally even without that info though I would never have fed a mouse to my bass. Its pointless, boring, and expensive. I would rather watch mine chase some fish, crayfish, even frogs. One more thing that I have heard that completly sways my opinion is the fact that these fish in the wild have so much more to do that they can burn the fat that they get from the mammals. Defending territory, nesting, even just plain out more space to swim. Unecissary and unhealthy.

Chad