What type of Black Nasty is this one?
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Ramsdeni is the other cichlid from Cuba (beside tetracanthus). It was from a remote part of Cuba, totally separated from tetracanthus by topography), which may be the reason (even though they may have come from the same basal ancestor) which allowed it to develop into a separate species.
Since Cuba has been politically closed to the US since the 60s, I doubt many have been brought in.
The last time I saw them for sale, there was a lone male for $300.00, and since there was no change of ever getting a mate, it didn't fit in with my idea of a cichlid program. Unless there is a chance of a cichlid spawning, I pass them up, I would only keep a single if there was some chance to get another down the road.
There was a great article about them in TFH magazine back in the late 80s or early 90s, with a title something like Finding the Juturo Again.
I remember seeing that MFK member Andy Woods has some great photos of them,
There was some speculation that there was once an endemic cichlid in Puerto Rico, which went extinct, due to either the transplantation of the the large mouth bass there, or other human activities. And another in Barbados that was fished out.
The article below mentions vombergae
Cichilds from Puerto Rico and Barbados. - The Cichlid Room Companioncichlidae.com › forum › Science and Conservation › Taxonomy
Since Cuba has been politically closed to the US since the 60s, I doubt many have been brought in.
The last time I saw them for sale, there was a lone male for $300.00, and since there was no change of ever getting a mate, it didn't fit in with my idea of a cichlid program. Unless there is a chance of a cichlid spawning, I pass them up, I would only keep a single if there was some chance to get another down the road.
There was a great article about them in TFH magazine back in the late 80s or early 90s, with a title something like Finding the Juturo Again.
I remember seeing that MFK member Andy Woods has some great photos of them,
There was some speculation that there was once an endemic cichlid in Puerto Rico, which went extinct, due to either the transplantation of the the large mouth bass there, or other human activities. And another in Barbados that was fished out.
The article below mentions vombergae
Cichilds from Puerto Rico and Barbados. - The Cichlid Room Companioncichlidae.com › forum › Science and Conservation › Taxonomy
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I have seen them referred to as 'large hump' or 'small hump' in the past. But I never really put much faith into them actually being two separate types of fish, since most cichlids can vary quite a bit from one individual to the next when it comes to that. I think some either develop it, or they don't. Whether its genetics, or hormones, or just situational is hard to say.
Nuchal Humps are fat and water (liquid) filled areas that can vary according to status in a hierarchy over time.
If one individual loses status, a large hump can shrink, and those that gain status can have their forehead grow, these forehead humps are not permanent features.
I had a group of Paratilapia in a tank, I presumed 1 male and 2 females (neither female had humps).
After the alpha male died, within 24-48 hours, one I thought was a female developed a large hump, and spawned with the true female .
If one individual loses status, a large hump can shrink, and those that gain status can have their forehead grow, these forehead humps are not permanent features.
I had a group of Paratilapia in a tank, I presumed 1 male and 2 females (neither female had humps).
After the alpha male died, within 24-48 hours, one I thought was a female developed a large hump, and spawned with the true female .
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