What's a good budget friendly HOB filter that will fit in a 125?

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Hmmm are you sure?....

I'm not even sure who is an actual human here. lol But you just lost an umbee in a 125, where you also just had one of your HOB filters fail, that at the time had yet to be replaced - that fish is now dead - and now you have two dovii in a 125, where one of the HOB has failed. And now you started a thread asking about HOB to replace the one that failed. Hmmmmm.

Either way, personally I think that looking for ways to save money is the least of your worries. Like I said, good luck.
 
I'm not even sure who is an actual human here. lol But you just lost an umbee in a 125, where you also just had one of your HOB filters fail, that at the time had yet to be replaced - that fish is now dead - and now you have two dovii in a 125, where one of the HOB has failed. And now you started a thread asking about HOB to replace the one that failed. Hmmmmm.

Either way, personally I think that looking for ways to save money is the least of your worries. Like I said, good luck.
Why does it matter to you if an umbee died in the tank before? I've always had the smaller dovii eith the umbee but guess you couldn't guess that. I just came here for advice on a simple filter I don't need any other lectures.

There are a lot of variables with fish keeping. I know you've been a longtime member on here but you seem to assume the worst case scenarios.
 
I pointed out the tank, no lecture. In fact, I made sure to only post the PC version of what I really think.

Have a nice day!
 
I pointed out the tank, no lecture. In fact, I made sure to only post the PC version of what I really think.

Have a nice day!
Hey man all good I know you a ton! You sure have helped me. Just being honest i hesitate to post on here because I feel like im going to get lectured on tank size or whatever. Not saying you in particular but generally speaking. I've been keeping fish long enough to know what's right and pure wrong. But just for transparency the 16" dovii is new and I bought him from someone who had him in a 37 gallon.

Also i have egg crate barriers in the tank so one can fight. I had several other fish in the tank who shuffled to make more space for the big dovii.
 
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Thanks, but sometimes the "back story" helps assist as to what is really going on. If I wasn't trying to help, I wouldn't post at all.

Filters serve 3 main purposes. 1. - keep the tank clean of debris (mechanical), 2. - allow bio-bacteria to colonize in large enough numbers to support the bio load. (biological) and 3. - create surface agitation which in turn allows 02 levels to increase while carbon dioxide dissipates. In your last thread you stated that you had nitrate readings of 160 ppm, which is why I posted the following.

I have always obsessed over clean water, a healthy obsession I think in this hobby. Early on I used nitrates as a measuring stick for overall nastiness, higher nitrates in a fish tank generally means higher levels of dissolved organic compounds, higher levels of bacteria, and over time a reduction in minerals, often accompanied with the overall acidic build up, a potential lowering of pH.

Over filtration won't help with any of the above.


I personally would never recommend keeping an umbee, or dovii, in the confines of a 125 - no matter the filtration, and no matter the amount or frequency of water changes.


I've been keeping fish long enough to know what's right and pure wrong. But just for transparency the 16" dovii is new and I bought him from someone who had him in a 37 gallon.


While I applaud your attempt at saving this fish, did you really save it? Or just prolong it's agony? Only you can answer that I guess. Not a lecture, but you just lost one fish due to poor husbandry practices, and almost immediately went out and bought another. Maybe you should ponder all that before worrying about being lectured.

Good luck
 
I can see your point of view with helping people on here who are not informed well. The back story helps but from my point of view if I have to post a back story every time I post it gets tedious.

The umbee wasn't that huge and was fine in a 125 in terms of size. Umbee died because of bad WC changes on my part but now I'm on top of things so that will not happen again. So i take full responsibility for the umbee passing. Not everyone or every tank is going to be perfect.


I just don't understand why you would think a 7" dovii and umbee couldn't live in a 125 for the short term? I'm talking 7". I've heard many senior level folks say they wouldn't keep those fish in a 125.

There are a ton of fish keepers out there who wanted the dovii from the 37 gallon tank who didn't know what they were getting into. Its in better hands than those folks. The owner screened a ton of people before parting ways with it to me. From my fish keeping experience and the stuff the owner told me about the others who wanted the fish the dovii is in great hands with me .


Thanks, but sometimes the "back story" helps assist as to what is really going on. If I wasn't trying to help, I wouldn't post at all.

Filters serve 3 main purposes. 1. - keep the tank clean of debris (mechanical), 2. - allow bio-bacteria to colonize in large enough numbers to support the bio load. (biological) and 3. - create surface agitation which in turn allows 02 levels to increase while carbon dioxide dissipates. In your last thread you stated that you had nitrate readings of 160 ppm, which is why I posted the following.

I have always obsessed over clean water, a healthy obsession I think in this hobby. Early on I used nitrates as a measuring stick for overall nastiness, higher nitrates in a fish tank generally means higher levels of dissolved organic compounds, higher levels of bacteria, and over time a reduction in minerals, often accompanied with the overall acidic build up, a potential lowering of pH.

Over filtration won't help with any of the above.


I personally would never recommend keeping an umbee, or dovii, in the confines of a 125 - no matter the filtration, and no matter the amount or frequency of water changes.





While I applaud your attempt at saving this fish, did you really save it? Or just prolong it's agony? Only you can answer that I guess. Not a lecture, but you just lost one fish due to poor husbandry practices, and almost immediately went out and bought another. Maybe you should ponder all that before worrying about being lectured.

Good luck
 
Thanks, but sometimes the "back story" helps assist as to what is really going on. If I wasn't trying to help, I wouldn't post at all.

Filters serve 3 main purposes. 1. - keep the tank clean of debris (mechanical), 2. - allow bio-bacteria to colonize in large enough numbers to support the bio load. (biological) and 3. - create surface agitation which in turn allows 02 levels to increase while carbon dioxide dissipates. In your last thread you stated that you had nitrate readings of 160 ppm, which is why I posted the following.

I have always obsessed over clean water, a healthy obsession I think in this hobby. Early on I used nitrates as a measuring stick for overall nastiness, higher nitrates in a fish tank generally means higher levels of dissolved organic compounds, higher levels of bacteria, and over time a reduction in minerals, often accompanied with the overall acidic build up, a potential lowering of pH.

Over filtration won't help with any of the above.


I personally would never recommend keeping an umbee, or dovii, in the confines of a 125 - no matter the filtration, and no matter the amount or frequency of water changes.





While I applaud your attempt at saving this fish, did you really save it? Or just prolong it's agony? Only you can answer that I guess. Not a lecture, but you just lost one fish due to poor husbandry practices, and almost immediately went out and bought another. Maybe you should ponder all that before worrying about being lectured.

Good luck
Also to clarify I did not go out and pursue the dovii. Or i didn't have the train of thought "oh damn I just lost an umbee time to get another monster fish!" The owner urgently had to get rid of it. So that's how I ended up with it.
 
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