Whats the ULTIMATE freshwater monster.

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You never know people claim to have caught 8 footers in the deep overgrown uninhabited parts Rolf the amazon and there are claims of much much bigger ones people tell story's of some getting over 10 feet with their powerful body and bony head i think that one that size could swallow a gar no problem or at least by ramming it a gar wouldn't be able to kill an Arapaima thats for sure because they are known to eat smaller prey items as opposed to equal or larger sized kill it giant paima gave Jeremy wade a permanent heart murmur and he's a human just a thought though :/


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Arapaima. I honestly don't see anything freshwater messing with a adult hungry wild Paima.

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You never know people claim to have caught 8 footers in the deep overgrown uninhabited parts Rolf the amazon and there are claims of much much bigger ones people tell story's of some getting over 10 feet with their powerful body and bony head i think that one that size could swallow a gar no problem or at least by ramming it a gar wouldn't be able to kill an Arapaima thats for sure because they are known to eat smaller prey items as opposed to equal or larger sized kill it giant paima gave Jeremy wade a permanent heart murmur and he's a human just a thought though :/


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The only problem with your line of thought is that there are credible reports of gator gars that get just as large as any of those claims of a paima. There are 8' gators caught regularly enough even now that the claim of the largest 10' in that one famous picture seems credible. How would a paima swallow such a fish?

As for ramming ability, we can't forget that the head of a gar is essentially one big bone, too. Gars and paima ahve the same swimming stayle as well, they're both relatively sedate fish who hang in the middle to the top of the water column. They both tend to move slowly and only rarely use their ability to move with explosive quickness.

So, to sum it up, we have two fish that both get to roughly the same size, have similar swimming habits and who behave in a similar manner. However, one possesses a set of large jaws with very large teeth and is literally armor plated (ganoid scales): the gator gar. Then we have the paima who has large, though normal scales and a mouth that is useless for anything other than suction feeding.

The gator is clearly the superior fish, even if the paima can get slightly larger.
 
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Arapaima. I honestly don't see anything freshwater messing with a adult hungry wild Paima.

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What makes an arapaima more impermeable than an adult nile crocodile? My vote goes for gatf over an arapaima no contest.I look at it like this, given out of those two, which would more likely kill the other? Even at their max sizes the gatf wins. I don't see an arapaima being able to kill a gatf. I can see it the other way around given it was hungry enough.
However, my overall vote goes to the goonch. One on one with any other of the fish stated above, in a closed environment, with both species desperate to kill, I think the goonch has the best overall likelyhood of winning. But even that doesn't truly sum it up because I don't know if it could take out a gar or arapaima like a gatf could but feel goonch vs. gatf goes to the goonch. It is just a far more complex question that there will never be a 100% answer to. I will say though that the fish that pound for pound is the nastiest/ most brutal is the gatf.


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Yes you are right except for the gar does not naturally eat things too large so realistically the teeth wouldn't even be a contributing factor to this argument because they don't attack larger prey than them or prey that is equal in size they attack things 1/3 the size of their body so this is not a factor. Arapaima however have much more mass to them their head is less slender than a gar which and they have incredible jumping force so they would obviously have more muscle and also the Arapaima has the ability to breathe air the gar does not to my knowledge.which gives it the ability to live in diverse conditions the Arapaima would most likely not swallow the gar but only kill it by ramming it with its brute force i don't think a gar would do as well with ramming because of its super elongated head any ways in my personal opinion i think that the paima is by far the top contender in this case.


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guys,this is fishonly no crocs. But ten pages and no mentionof eletric eel?btw this is one on one, schools of goliathorother monsters werent the idea, but i believe that a snakehead or aimara will take it down, especially if protecting young
 
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