Wild Caught Giant Snakehead vs Catfish ( Warning )

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Lepisosteus platyrhincus;2487796; said:
This isnt really worth responding to (we never see eye to eye on things)
but he eats other fish. he ripped the back half off because there is poison barbs in the front of the fish(or so i read).
My gar attacks so violently that he sometimes rip the guts out of his feeders. Is this cruel? Should i not do it because of this? Just go ahead you can keep feed your gar as most gars do not ripped their prey apart and are swallowed up whole. Its not cruel, but its cruel when you decided to make a video about a snakehead ripping their prey and keep taping on the prey for just fun.
walking catfish a common fish, so if i was there, i would not, hesitate to throw one in for the snakehead
for those of us who feed live, a feeder is just that a feeder. NOW with that being said i dont think it is exactly right. I probably would give it smaller BUT i would still give it a larger fish if i had no small. Fish eat fish. Sometimes fish rip fish in half. Still if I have a larger fish, I will cut it in small pieces, instead of threw whole larger fish into a tank. Sometimes a larger feeder can kill a large fish by simple choked on too big feeder fish as its not uncommon to find a dead big fish washed up in the beach with a large prey in its mouth.
Just like humans. We are no different than that fish and if we were in its shoes we would do the same thing. huh? what you meant we're no different from fish? please explain.
Just eat what we can and ditch the rest! This is life.
Please read these red words.
 
we are no differnet from fish
Nothing really to explain(i.e. you would argue with me anyways)
let me try anyways.......
lets do it this way humans/fish
act big and bad /do the same thing
eat what we want and waste the rest/same
basically fish are wastefull and cocky
many humans and for that matter most animals are wastefull and cocky
Ever notice how an animal will prance around like theyre big stuff? Then a bigger badder animal comes around.
then the original animal hides and is scared
Need I really expalin more?
oh and about being wastefull, look at our harvest of wildlife. We waste alot of the cow, or the crab, or the chicken. Doenst matter the animal, we waste much of it, just like that fish wasted the front half of the catfish
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;2488087; said:
we are no differnet from fish
Nothing really to explain(i.e. you would argue with me anyways)
let me try anyways.......
lets do it this way humans/fish
act big and bad /do the same thing
eat what we want and waste the rest/same
basically fish are wastefull and cocky
many humans and for that matter most animals are wastefull and cocky
Ever notice how an animal will prance around like theyre big stuff? Then a bigger badder animal comes around.
then the original animal hides and is scared
Need I really expalin more?
oh and about being wastefull, look at our harvest of wildlife. We waste alot of the cow, or the crab, or the chicken. Doenst matter the animal, we waste much of it, just like that fish wasted the front half of the catfish

huh? thats doesnt make any sense. Thats huge difference between fish and the humans. Fish do not wasteful and cocky. And you cannot compared us to this video as theres lots of different reasons for this. Nice try man.
 
MN_Rebel;2489375; said:
huh? thats doesnt make any sense. Thats huge difference between fish and the humans. Fish do not wasteful and cocky. And you cannot compared us to this video as theres lots of different reasons for this. Nice try man.
WOW!!! couple things
1 Fish are wastfull. Many(not all just many) will not tolerate certain fish or (like mine) will kill and not eat the body. When a Oscar kills a chilicd is this not wasteful?
When a Blue whale catfish burrows inside another fish kills it, just to only eat a small amount, is this not wasteful? When a Gar(maybe mine is the only one that does this but) kills a feeder fish knowing its too big to eat is this not wasteful?? How can you say fish arnt wastefull when there is great examples probably in one of your tanks.
2 fish think they are king untill a new fish asserts its dominance in the tank. Trust me i know youve seen this, we all have
3 do me a favor, when you want to critsize me, please i dont car about spelling(heck i cant spell) but please at least try to make your grammer somewhat correct(not asking you to be all proper just close to coherent)
now im not trying to be rude, please be aware of that, just trying to state a point.(and im sure youll disagree on)
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;2489471; said:
WOW!!! couple things
1 Fish are wastfull. Many(not all just many) will not tolerate certain fish or (like mine) will kill and not eat the body. When a Oscar kills a chilicd is this not wasteful? Cichlids are terrorital and rarely kill other cichlids in the wild but in aquarium where they cannot escape from the aggressive cichlid. Even their own mate unable to escape from the male because she cannot get out of the aquarium from her own mate. it is the owner's responsible, not nature's responsible.
When a Blue whale catfish burrows inside another fish kills it, just to only eat a small amount, is this not wasteful? Again this is in nature, not in aquarium. Blue whale catfish are not only scavenger, other blue whale catfish, small fish, snails and leech will join to eat the dead fish as nothing's getting wasted in the nature. In aquarium, there are no scavengers, just snakehead and nothing other.

When a Gar(maybe mine is the only one that does this but) kills a feeder fish knowing its too big to eat is this not wasteful?? How can you say fish arnt wastefull when there is great examples probably in one of your tanks.

Again this is not nature because we cannot mimic full nature in the aquarium.

2 fish think they are king untill a new fish asserts its dominance in the tank. Trust me i know youve seen this, we all have. Because they cannot escape from the dominant. In the wild, they can just move from this area to another area. It is not uncommon for the lowest rank cichlid become killed by dominant cichlid because it cannot move to another area.

Now thats difference between the nature and the aquarium. We are responsible for take care of these fish, not nature. Now this SH's owner choose to just throw a very large feeder catfish in the tank for just fun. This is not nature because you can see how empty the tank is. Just a bare glass tank.
 
nice snakehead,but if i kept that snakehead,i wou'd have buyed a bigger tank.
 
i agree flemming
and mn_rebel tell ya what
This is pointless, lets agree to disagree
Im not gonna change my mind and your not gonna change yours
Its pointless for us to keep making posts when obviously we will disagree forever
 
i think that is for the best , agree to disagree . every one has there own views on theese things , and no matter what is said will not change this view .

personally i see that video for what i belive it is , i.e someone with a compleate lack of respect for any living creature. the channa is without doubt kept in housing that is too small and none of the things that channa need to be happy are provided , i.e. no floating cover ,no place to hide ect ect , feeding the fish that is far to big for it just confirms my suspisions , its only by luck that the channa bit the fish in half and did not try and compleatly eat it , we have also all seen many times channas with tails hanging out of there mouths , a lot of channa deaths are caused by choking on food that it too large and the guy it lucky the channa decided to bite it in half , in nature channa will only bite fish in half when there is a lack of smaller fish in the water . videos like this only serve to confirm the authorities beleifs that these fish cannot be looked after correctly and responsable by the public , and that it was correct to ban them. after all if the guy can not house this fish now , what is he going to do when it becomes full size ??? he hasnt acted responsable up to now so why would he not just dump the fish when he is finnished letting it entertain him.

again this is my opinion and it will not be the same opinion as others and i respect that , but i dont see how anyone can cry about them being banned while theese fish are being kept in theese unacceptable conditions.

cheers col
 
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