wild caught yellow lab

[cchhcc]

I have found over the years that the F1,F2 generations seem to be less skittish and generally more comfortable in overall aquarium life. Consider that and the fact that they have good bloodlines for future breeding and its a win win.
The biggest issue Ive had with F0 stock has been internal parasites. watch the water water quality and food types and no worries.

x2 on the internal parasite comment. You will often see quite a few wild caughts with sunken bellies that just won't seem to improve without treatment........and sometimes not even then!

 

[fishluvr12]

Nice Lab!

 

[MTN PIKE]

I have found over the years that the F1,F2 generations seem to be less skittish and generally more comfortable in overall aquarium life. Consider that and the fact that they have good bloodlines for future breeding and its a win win.
The biggest issue Ive had with F0 stock has been internal parasites. watch the water water quality and food types and no worries.

I have F1s from Rusty, they are really nice too, but in my experience, wild caught have more nice colour than tank raised. Yes, internal parasites are always an issue. In the next two years it will be more and more difficult to import ANY wild caught fish, sad but true!

I am going to try to breed my wild caught with F1 yellow lab, let we see what can happen later.

 

[cchhcc]

Wild caught might have nicer color for a while, but eventually the environmental factors that produce that color are gone. Genetically speaking, there is zero difference between wild and F-1. Both fish have the same potential.

With this particular species, though, wild caught may be important for breeders as they are uncommon in the hobby. Still, there's so much wild hybridization with labridens that even when pulled out of their Mexican home one must be careful.

 

[flowerpower]

'Be careful'? How does one go about doing this?

 

[Big_Kill]

'Be careful'? How does one go about doing this?

The yellow labs collected from Media Luna (or the chanels connected to it) have a reasonable chance of being hybrids. It can be difficult to know for sure. Any wild specimen in doubt should be identified by an expert (such as Juan Miguel) to know for sure. I believe I read somewhere that the yellow labs Don collected were from an isolated location where the possibility of hybridization does not exist. Can anyone confirm this? I believe the ones from Rusty are from Media Luna but have obviously been confirmed as pure. I remember reading something on Aquamojo about Juan Miguel verifying the identity of Mo's fish also.

 

[flowerpower]

I heard the same.

 

[castrokid3]

cool

 

[armac]

I heard the same.

Then you should have an idea about how to "be careful" if you have the same information. Just looking to see if anybody else knew the same info as you?

Sharing information is important to the hobby, not hoarding it.

 

[jgentry]

The yellow labs collected from Media Luna (or the chanels connected to it) have a reasonable chance of being hybrids. It can be difficult to know for sure. Any wild specimen in doubt should be identified by an expert (such as Juan Miguel) to know for sure. I believe I read somewhere that the yellow labs Don collected were from an isolated location where the possibility of hybridization does not exist. Can anyone confirm this? I believe the ones from Rusty are from Media Luna but have obviously been confirmed as pure. I remember reading something on Aquamojo about Juan Miguel verifying the identity of Mo's fish also.

It's not possible to have an isolated area that close without the possibility of hybridization. Birds, turtles, snakes, etc can all carry eggs to different locations quite easily. All of the labridens are in extreme danger of getting bred out of existance and any fish caught in those areas could be a hybrid and should be properly identified by an expert.

I'm not in anyway implying that Don's are hybrids, so don't take the above statement the wrong way. Just saying that I don't believe in magical secret locations.