Wow. The Latest PETA-files...

[RadleyMiller]

Pollution to an extent is making the climate colder. In some part of the world, the effect of pollution is cooling the climate so rapidly, native species are dying.

Lots of stuff is happening. I was just pointing out that people point the finger in the wrong direction. We are starting to have a pole shift and then the magnetic field will be stronger then ever, and Santa will be at the South Pole.

 

[andregurov]

It seems like these radicals have no clear idea of science.

Actually, science is less certainty and more flexibility. Thats why much of the natural world falls into "theorems" and not proofs. Scientific understanding is continually refined and given more truth. Global warming? I have no idea. The concern is identifying causes for why the world and its climate changes. Simply because one thing does not directly affect another does not legitimize inaction. PETA is rather frightening for their confrontational approach and wacky methods - at least their members believe, no matter how misguided that belief, in effecting change. Too many people disguise complacency as moral outrage. You are right - neither the free market or capitalism do anything to the environment. People do.

J

 

[ewurm]

Fine, I won't eat animals. When animals stop eating animals. When I see wolves in my back yard digging up carrots, I'll join them. Until then, pass the bacon, pork chops, Chicken Caesar Salad, Ribeye, and walleye fried in baby seal lard.

 

[rayman45]

lol

 

[missyme06]

Peta releases lab animals in to the wild, lab animals never drink water form any thing other then a cage bottle, so when the animals get in to the wild they die a slow painful death from dehydration. because they don't know how to drink water. same thing happens to giny pigs you get form the pet store, they need to drink form a bottle or they die.

and thats why Peta sucks.

 

[Lupin]

PETA is rather frightening for their confrontational approach and wacky methods - at least their members believe, no matter how misguided that belief, in effecting change.

Lol..What I said in the other thread. Yeah, PETA may be doing what they think is best for nature but what they're doing regarding the meat issues may be a wacky and dangerous trend.
PETA seems to make statements without evidence, don't they? At least, on some issues like how the fish felt the pain when a person is fishing them with a rod.

 

[RadleyMiller]

Fine, I won't eat animals. When animals stop eating animals. When I see wolves in my back yard digging up carrots, I'll join them. Until then, pass the bacon, pork chops, Chicken Caesar Salad, Ribeye, and walleye fried in baby seal lard.

Look at our mouth. We have canines. Tigers have canines. We eat MEAT!

 

[Eupterus]

PETA does not release lab animals, that'd be ALF. Animal Liberation Front.
Some people seem to get confused about this. ALF is the group that engages in illegal activities.
Learning to drink water from a pool is going to the least of the concerns when releasing large amounts of fur rasied or lab animals. Not that I'd endose these activites, just saying...

Vegetarianism is better for the enviroment because plant agriculture use less resoucres then animal agriculture. This is well proven and you can find the facts in other sources besides PETA. My personal thoery is if you are sustenance hunting, then this would be the exception to this rule.

Needing meat is debatable. Gorillas have these sorts of teeth too. At any rate, most people agree that if any meat is needed, it is very small amounts and our species is basically vegetarian. Like a pleco that eats mostly plant matter and might eat meat once in a while.

Wolves are not closely related to people for you to model your diet after them.
If you truly believe you need to eat like a wolf, then by all means run into the forest with a bunch of people, run down another animal and start "wolfing" down raw meat with your "canine" teeth". I'm guessing your weak people teeth would be unable to piece a deer's skin.

As for the animals died to harvest plant based foods, this is entirelly true.
But when you eat factory farmed raised meat, more grain had to be indirectly raised so you could have this meat. Despite that something often "had" to die for a vegetarian diet, it is still going to be less then a meat based diet because of the amount of grains you need to raise animals for meat. Hunting would be different because you wouldn't be raising crops to feed the animals, would be interesting to compare impacts of animals killed in hunting VS animals who are killed to harvest crops.

As for radicals being clueless about the enviroment: I'm assuming you meant PETA members here?. I would say that people with radical beliefs come from all walks of life. Some are highly educated, some are not.
Both liberal and conservative people can fall into either catergories as well as wide ranges in between.

 

[CHOMPERS]

Fine, I won't eat animals. When animals stop eating animals. When I see wolves in my back yard digging up carrots, I'll join them. Until then, pass the bacon, pork chops, Chicken Caesar Salad, Ribeye, and walleye fried in baby seal lard.

I'm eating at your house from now on. Pass the baby seal lard

 

[Fish_are_fishfood]

Also, don't get me started on global warming and that "hole in the ozone" layer B/S. Yes, there was a hole in the ozone layer, but it is repairing itself. Ozone gas is broken down by UV light and it is also created by UV light so the hole is shrinking. The Earth is a negative feedback system that resists change. "Global warming" is not the cause of big business and pollution. It is going to get a lot hotter hear and we are going to get more UV radiation when the polls switch and then we are going to have another ice age. Someone please tell the hippies that the free market economy and capitalism have no effect on when the polls switch, its a natural thing and we are do for one.

The ozone layer is not to be just passed off so quickly. Unless China, nothing against China now, starts to clean up, there are going to be more serius problems now then later. The amounts of air pollutants that contribute to global warming is phenominal.

UV does create ozone, but it is not rebuilding it, overall the ozone is still being depleted. The UV creates ozone at a lower level in the atmosphere, and it doesnt produce enough before it can rise to the ozone layer high up and add a significant amount to the concentraion. The ozone created by UV is not enough to rebuild the holes and reverse the depletetion and it is still a cause for worry.