XP3 - Not to Impressed.

[Jgray152]

where do they state this? I don't recall any mention of it in the manuals..

all they state is the filter is 'bypass free'..

is it on their website?

Its what customer service told me.

for the record, if I recall there were a lot of MFK'ers trying to "correct" you last time, but you chose to ignore everyone. it wasn't just me...

Whats is your definition of "lots". I only remember a 2 or 3. You can't correct something that is not faulted.

Acorrding to you and those other members., I suppose it doesn't help to have a larger cross section surface area at all.

So filtering through a straw 10" long is no different then filtering through a 12"x12" sqaure 10" long. correct?

BTW, those "OTHER" members, maybe it was you, I would have to see, had no idea how to calculate the cross section surface area. That member said to me, trying to prove me wrong, that since they have 3 or 4 layers of foam, the cross section surface area is multiplied by 3 or 4. There was so much BS you and others said in that thread. You all also where trying to talk about the " total surface area" of the entire mechanical media saying I was wrong when I mentioned nothing about the "surface area of the media". You and those other members had no idea what you were talking about. Maybe I will bring that thread back just for the hell of it.

 

[tcarswell]

Its what customer service told me.



Whats is your definition of "lots". I only remember a 2 or 3. You can't correct something that is not faulted.

Acorrding to you and those other members., I suppose it doesn't help to have a larger cross section surface area at all.

So filtering through a straw 10" long is no different then filtering through a 12"x12" sqaure 10" long. correct?

BTW, those "OTHER" members, maybe it was you, I would have to see, had no idea how to calculate the cross section surface area. That member said to me, trying to prove me wrong, that since they have 3 or 4 layers of foam, the cross section surface area is multiplied by 3 or 4. There was so much BS you and others said in that thread. You all also where trying to talk about the " total surface area" of the entire mechanical media saying I was wrong when I mentioned nothing about the "surface area of the media". You and those other members had no idea what you were talking about. Maybe I will bring that thread back just for the hell of it.

I wanna see it

 

[cassharper]

I love a juicy debate!

 

[12 Volt Man]

Jgray, all BSing aside, you claim that the rena has a 'very small cross sectional area' and 'clogs much faster than comparable pumps'

tell us, exactly which filters are you comparing the rena to in making these claims?

because you are going to find that most of these rena users do NOT feel that their pumps clog much faster than others or they would not be so damn popular. period.

yoiu make claims about the renas that are simply not true. that is why many people jumped on you the last time..

this is not the right place to open up that old thread. if anyone wants to see the debate (and the white flag raised at the end LOL) PM me..

 

[FishPower]

everyone needs to

ive been using the same xp3s for almost 4 years with no leaks of any kind....and im still using the same o-rings. maybe you just got a bad batch?

 

[Bderick67]

Well reading these threads and many others, the only repeated problem I have seen with the XP line is the leaking at the quick disconnect valve assembly. Generally this is because of operator error(done it myself) or faulty o'rings. Now I can understand the reasoning behind the clogging argument, thing is there just isn't anybody reporting this to be an issue. So obviously myself and many other satisfied XP owners see the is no design flaw with this really small 36 sq inches of cross sectional area that the XPs have. So this argument is pointless.

You will always have people who like and dislike products. The XP line has been around for a dozen years with no changes to it's design, whereas the fluval canisters have gone through the 03, 04 and now are on the 05 series, hmmm...wonder why?
It seems that Hagen finally got it right with the FX5, but then again it is a different class.

Personally I will go with a pair of XP3s before a single FX5, but that just me and my favoring of redundant filters on my tanks.

 

[LouieV]

Here here!!

 

[EmilyMarie85]

Ditto - I have 2 XP3's and the only issue I have ever had with them was caused by operator error...

 

[12 Volt Man]

So obviously myself and many other satisfied XP owners see the is no design flaw with this really small 36 sq inches of cross sectional area that the XPs have. So this argument is pointless.

exactly. there is no argument because the reasoning behind the argument in the first place is flawed - there is much more to filtration than simply cross sectional area.

 

[12 Volt Man]

I would like to know more about this 'bypass' feature that Jgray says Rena told him about.