Like I said I may try online sometime. I do have to say the one LFS I go to is actually pretty nice. I don't know a name or anything all I know is they said they got them from a supplier in Florida. That would be funny though if your fish came from the same place.tydus;2103212; said:I prefer online, because alot of lfs, you can't trust at all. That's why I buy from reputable sellers online. Do you know where your lfs ordered the kyoga flamebacks from?