Zebrina group on the way

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I love the direction the conversation has shifted to here. A few other guys have a wealth of info. They specialize across all new world cichlids so they are on the forums a lot. Freebyrd and Ryansmith come to mind. They helped me out a lot when I fell into the crenicichla wormhole last year.

For me, I think the biggest issue with the broader cichlid community is the misperceptions floating out there about pike cichlid aggression. Most people are scared away before they even start since Google will tell you that they are not fish to be kept in communities and they exaggerate their demeanor and care requirements. When I kept my lents with angelfish, everyone was shocked.

A Mythbusters stickies I think would go far.

Let me know how I can contribute.
 
No problem, sounds like a good idea to me, an interesting read and a way to generate traffic as these habitats also host other fish which may make Aro and CA/SA Cichlid keeprs peer in here and may get them hooked on pikes before they leave out. Here's a sample link of something we could use in that thread/ sticky http://rainforests.mongabay.com/0602.htm It describes the differences between white, clear and black water. The only things it's vague on is temp. and which is the most likely to be the fast moving water. However we can logically deduce with a decent degree of certainty from the article and the fact that when you go river rafting you go down "white water rapids" it's white water that tends to be the fastest flowing of the three. Still there's definitely better more in depth articles we could source, write them out for the layman and cite the source of said info.


Thanks Jacob all I can say is between you, caribemob and mrrobxc you've done a good job of generating interest IMO by keeping pike threads circulating in the public eye through informative posts so they have a chance to draw some attention as well as educate. I believe I see it too a few people starting to become interested in pikes. We may never have the numbers of some of the other sections but if we had a good core group IMO that's just as good as a large group as long as the dedication to providing info. is there.

I still like the Vendor sticky idea because we can keep it open to additions making it always relevant. Plus the very fact that only certain vendors sell pikes and the vendors who carry them changes so often along with changes in regulations IMO makes the sticky a good idea. Instead of waiting for someone to mention something casually in their personal thread about such a change they cold update the sticky making the info. readily accessible and hopefully increasing the speed with which we become aware of such changes so we can adapt more quickly. As it is I think the fact that it's so hard to source pikes that is also a turn off and by having new info. about said sources readily available I think it'll help our section grow. I could be wrong though this is just my opinion.

I'm glad your with me on the species list as well as the seasonal availability and I fully agree it isn't going to easy finding such info. especially detailed info. As for the seasonal availability I was going to check MFK and other sites and see when vendors added pikes to their lists as well as talk to some who collect pikes themselves and see what time of year pikes are better collected in. Hopefully we'll get a decent idea so we can always know when to save our money for the next big pike influx. I used to do seasonal availability lists for myself when I was into Armatus and some other seasonal fish and it was a big help in making sure I was ready both with room and money for when fish I wanted became available. I'm going to have to check out Vinny Kutty's site based on your recommendation and I plan on joining The Cichlid Room Companion so I could see what they have to offer as far as pike info. goes and pass that knowledge on here.

Yeah he was a mad man when it came to pikes but as others have said he doesn't log on often anymore. I'm trying to see if I can Mod this section so I can help you guys out getting these things going.


Nice, thanks for the info. Gotta love Jeff, not only does he sell quality fish but he knows his stuff.

Perfect all this sounds great kolt. I can't wait to start


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I love the direction the conversation has shifted to here. A few other guys have a wealth of info. They specialize across all new world cichlids so they are on the forums a lot. Freebyrd and Ryansmith come to mind. They helped me out a lot when I fell into the crenicichla wormhole last year.

For me, I think the biggest issue with the broader cichlid community is the misperceptions floating out there about pike cichlid aggression. Most people are scared away before they even start since Google will tell you that they are not fish to be kept in communities and they exaggerate their demeanor and care requirements. When I kept my lents with angelfish, everyone was shocked.

A Mythbusters stickies I think would go far.

Let me know how I can contribute.
 
Wow if a PH of 7 works then that would be awesome. Seems like these guys are very very active.


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Almost any ph works with most pikes (notable exceptions) but for best color and best chance of breeding you want it to be lower. I'm glad the collection point on the ones you have are a white water River. Good luck with them. All this zebrina talk makes me so tempted to snatch one up but I've got diff pikes on my mind that I'm schemin to get

I find it interesting that zebrina can be found in both black water and white water locations...

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Get some Jacob!

I think quite a few species are found in both black and white water which is why so many south american fish have proven themselves to be hardy. The ones with the more limited ditribution are the challenging ones. Like uaru fernendezpezi, altums, crenicichla atabapo II's. This is great news. Somebody already bred intermedia so hopefully these guys won't be too far off.

I'm not a dedicated breeder since I like variety in my tanks and I treat them more as displays highlighting the fish as well as the aquascape. That being said, if I can bread them...I'm all for it.

Lets bring this forum back gents.

And Jacob, thanks for taking leadership here on this board All these months.
 
Almost any ph works with most pikes (notable exceptions) but for best color and best chance of breeding you want it to be lower. I'm glad the collection point on the ones you have are a white water River. Good luck with them. All this zebrina talk makes me so tempted to snatch one up but I've got diff pikes on my mind that I'm schemin to get

I find it interesting that zebrina can be found in both black water and white water locations...

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Great point. I knew that you can keep pikes in any steady PH but all my pikes I'm working on trying to spawn and I thought it was cool that a PH of 7 the Cincta are laying eggs. I think if he drops the PH to about 6.5. He ought have a successful spawn


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I'll give it a shot. The issue is, I'd hav3 to load a filter with some peat to do thaT and having a riparium a hob wouldn't work. I could load another canister which I just have to develop the discipline to actually follow through and do it.

My problem is, I like to be lazy.
 
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