I really wish this was the case, but from what I saw this morning it isn't likely.
The beginning of the end? Raykeepers nightmare.
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I really wish this was the case, but from what I saw this morning it isn't likely.
I spoke with a guy today and it sounds like the next one that passes will be going to the university of Mississippi along with the ones that have already passed, though frozen won't yield the same result, they're still willing to take a look it sounds like.
I'm wondering if it's possible to bring back to eating regularly and patiently wait till they're tough enough to run a full course of meds.
It sounds like there's plenty of proof here that there's something nasty out there. That's a proven fact if universities are confirming it. Maybe we've all experienced it one way or another. Maybe it's possible to keep it at bay with good care, but too much breeding behavior, new tank mates, over crowding, underfeeding and first sign of stress the takeover begins. Those are nothing more then maybes though. Speculation there.
What a friggin rolercoaster. Things suck. Rebuild. Still sucks. Rebuild while moving. Works great! Stuff starts breeding. Go on vacation. POOF! Stuff starts dying.
Hopefully this ends up benefitting everyone when it's all said and done.
Just sucks it always has to be the nicest ones that we loose.
I'm wondering if it's possible to bring back to eating regularly and patiently wait till they're tough enough to run a full course of meds.
It sounds like there's plenty of proof here that there's something nasty out there. That's a proven fact if universities are confirming it. Maybe we've all experienced it one way or another. Maybe it's possible to keep it at bay with good care, but too much breeding behavior, new tank mates, over crowding, underfeeding and first sign of stress the takeover begins. Those are nothing more then maybes though. Speculation there.
What a friggin rolercoaster. Things suck. Rebuild. Still sucks. Rebuild while moving. Works great! Stuff starts breeding. Go on vacation. POOF! Stuff starts dying.
Hopefully this ends up benefitting everyone when it's all said and done.
Just sucks it always has to be the nicest ones that we loose.
Dang man, what an experience. It sounds like it is time for you to partner with R. Ross and you two compile a new book on freshwater stingray disease management. I really hope the university can pin point what is going on. I have only lost 3 rays in my journey and they were all super nice looking females which are hard if not impossible to replace.
U.Miss is an excellent source for fish vet pathology. 
Freezing the dead ray is ok for bacteria cultures etc but almost useless for parasites. Formaldehyde is ideal for organ and parasite pathology.
Freezing the dead ray is ok for bacteria cultures etc but almost useless for parasites. Formaldehyde is ideal for organ and parasite pathology.
The ones in the 750 are eating again, but still look horrible. Will start cycling the lights again, they've been in the dark for weeks.
The last 2 in the juvie tank are still refusing all food including blackworms. The white on the front of the newer one's disk came off, just kinda peeled off. She's very skinny. Even the Rapheal cat in the juvie tank passed. Would be great if they started eating again......
are the the ones that are eating in the 750 the ones that were not medicated ?
if so, did you do anything else like clean filters, change feeding patterns or anything ?
if so, did you do anything else like clean filters, change feeding patterns or anything ?
Correct. No meds in the 750. The filter socks were changed but they're changed every couple weeks. The rays were divided off from the others after appetite loss. After refusing food for several days they were offered blackworms (not typically fed here) other then that nothing really changed care wise.
The ones in the 750 only exhibited lack of appetite and discoloration. The ones that were medicated were showing the hazy eyes, no intrest in food whatsoever, forehead dents, advanced stages were accompanied by disc shedding and darting/spazms.
thanks for the extra info.
im sorry for your losses but i hope at least that your experiences help others in some way and it sounds like things are going the right way for you again at least ;]
im sorry for your losses but i hope at least that your experiences help others in some way and it sounds like things are going the right way for you again at least ;]
