pet ownership isn't going anywhere, its not a big conspiracy. its reforming with the times. lions and primates used to be sold in new york city pet stores, they aren't anymore (legally at least). we used to knowingly pollute the drinking water, now we don't (well we do but its frowned upon and we try not to). why? because the population and growing and we can't defecate in our water source or keep potentially deadly animals available to everyone. these bans aren't going after hamsters and leopard geckos, just the obvious targets...big and potentially dangerous "exotic" pets. the fact is...people have been killed by these animals and they have been irresponsibly released. its extremely ignorant because dogs kill people, and cats wreak havoc on native wildlife. but news flash...the general public is scared of snakes. times are changing, society progresses and this is part of it whether its right or not.
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^^ this.....
I live in Florida and I would prefer the ban on the animals to not "have' to even be discussed, but as a parent it's something I'm forced to have to think about. Until they can figure out how to regulate the idiots that buy these snakes thinking "how cool it is" without any idea of the potential size or dietary requirements releasing them into what is essentially my backyard, it's a concern.
Living in FL already posses enough issues as it is with the indigenous species that live around us "sharing' common real estate with humans. I can accept that and the dangers that go with it, but something has to be done about the morons that buy these pythons and then release them into the wild.
I say don't ban them, but just like a gun permit, folks should have to license and register the animal and be subjected to a waiting period to check to see if they should even have them in the first place. I have no problem with the animals.........it's some of the owners that I have a big problem with
I live in Florida and I would prefer the ban on the animals to not "have' to even be discussed, but as a parent it's something I'm forced to have to think about. Until they can figure out how to regulate the idiots that buy these snakes thinking "how cool it is" without any idea of the potential size or dietary requirements releasing them into what is essentially my backyard, it's a concern.
Living in FL already posses enough issues as it is with the indigenous species that live around us "sharing' common real estate with humans. I can accept that and the dangers that go with it, but something has to be done about the morons that buy these pythons and then release them into the wild.
I say don't ban them, but just like a gun permit, folks should have to license and register the animal and be subjected to a waiting period to check to see if they should even have them in the first place. I have no problem with the animals.........it's some of the owners that I have a big problem with
Screw jack hanna. Imbecile!
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We have always come to a point in discussion in which some leverage must be made by both parties, one the obsessive, anti-slime and scale donkeys and the other, the people who can be considered oddities in pet keeping. Before I get to that, I want to point out that majority of the conclusion reached has placed its basis on invasive species. If anything, documents regarding the invasive potential of the large constrictors are extremely flawed. Perhaps if congress reaches a similar conclusion based on the points you listed above, it would be safe to think it were moderately decent in thought process.
Putting things back in place, why are then dogs not banned? They have been cases of dogs killing humans, and these exceed those caused by large constrictors. I don't think any conclusion reached on this issue is ever out of rational and objective balancing of evidence, but rather, a inflammatory rush into establishing biased thinking as fact based on traditional and obviously outdated mindsets. Which regards to invasive potential, dogs and cats can possibly a good deal of damage, as Australia can testify for.
The two forum members who have supported this ban, I believe you don't actually have anything against large constrictors, but are victims are misinformation. Again comes the topic of responsibility, where suggestions are aplenty. In the case where reptile collection becomes legal where I live, I would create a stringent atmosphere of control and proper care if I were in charge.
Putting things back in place, why are then dogs not banned? They have been cases of dogs killing humans, and these exceed those caused by large constrictors. I don't think any conclusion reached on this issue is ever out of rational and objective balancing of evidence, but rather, a inflammatory rush into establishing biased thinking as fact based on traditional and obviously outdated mindsets. Which regards to invasive potential, dogs and cats can possibly a good deal of damage, as Australia can testify for.
The two forum members who have supported this ban, I believe you don't actually have anything against large constrictors, but are victims are misinformation. Again comes the topic of responsibility, where suggestions are aplenty. In the case where reptile collection becomes legal where I live, I would create a stringent atmosphere of control and proper care if I were in charge.
I for one am very sick and tired of hearing about Florida and Snakes becoming an issue there. Cats are the most destructive invasive species in the world, the damage they have wrought on Small Birds, Mammals, and Reptiles and the ecosystem in general is so far beyond what a few Burms in the glades has done that it isn't even worth mentioning them. We be doing more good to release more burms to eat Feral Cat populations, than banning them.
^^ I agree, but please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I don't want the animals banned, I just feel we should be able to keep up with the owners. Gotta have a license to drive and fish or own a gun.......chip them, register them or whatever. We should be able to keep these animals.....responsibly. Cats too......
Agreed. An outright ban is ridiculous. Pythons are not going to become established in freaking wisconsin and transporting them across the WI and MN stateline is not going to harm the ecosystem as they are not going to do any better there than here. There is no need to ban the whole freaking country. Permits and chipping should be the logical step to prevent release in places where they do thrive. There is no denying that there is a need to control potentially invasive species, but unlike bans on difficult to tag pets like piranhas, country wide bans on snakes makes NO SENSE.
Plain and simple for me.
Here is what I don't support:
This ban, or any like it.
Here is what I do support:
A permit system where the owner must do the following:
a. Pay a fee for the permit. ($100 or so.)
b. Be entered into a database which keeps records of the number and species of animals kept.
c. Microchip all controlled species once they are big enough.
d. (And most important) fill out an anonymous application that must be approved BY ANOTHER PERMIT HOLDER. Not some biased and uninformed government official, an actual keeper of these animals that knows about them.
Here is what I don't support:
This ban, or any like it.
Here is what I do support:
A permit system where the owner must do the following:
a. Pay a fee for the permit. ($100 or so.)
b. Be entered into a database which keeps records of the number and species of animals kept.
c. Microchip all controlled species once they are big enough.
d. (And most important) fill out an anonymous application that must be approved BY ANOTHER PERMIT HOLDER. Not some biased and uninformed government official, an actual keeper of these animals that knows about them.
