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Please define the words "constant" and please clarify what is the underlying problem? How do you know I don't try to understand what I was doing wrong? Haven't any fish died in your care?

Somehow I knew you'd come back with a failed attempt to be witty and sarcastic. I think you have enough common sense to answer those questions yourself. You don't need me to define them for you.
 
Somehow I knew you'd come back with a failed attempt to be witty and sarcastic. I think you have enough common sense to answer those questions yourself. You don't need me to define them for you.
I do need a clarification, since when I posted a dead fish, there was date stamped and a reason attached.
 
Lol. I just read rest of op's rant against me. Man you are too paranoid. Here is a challenge for you...find some posts that suggest I am a cheerleader for john...it's kind of easy, just look at my previous posts under my profile. Oh I get it...just because I think 240/300 gallon tank is good enough for a silver aro, I must be a fan of Jdm style fish tanks.

As for floor damage, here it is...there are two or three spots like this not worth fixing at this moment. Waiting until kid gets older and stop drawing on the floor etc...

My filters are canisters based and great nitrate generators which my porthos reduce. The best thing about my setup is I dont have to service those canisters for 10 month now...

Happy now op? ;)




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That's what I'm talking about. A guy makes a suggestion and you try to say he's stupid and you know so much more than he does. I bet there's a lot of people here who think your heater setup is wrong but they don't want to face your 12 paragraphs of fury in response so they won't post their opinion.

Just because ecoli or anyone else thinks your setup could be improved, it doesn't mean they believe in cramming fish into their tank or they're an unethical fish keeper. That's all in your head and that's just some way you can make yourself think you're better than anyone who dares to tell you your setup could be improved.

Everyone here likes your 770 G tank. Some people here like your sump. A couple people here really like your stock choices. But I bet no one here likes your smug attitude when it comes to getting feedback on your tank.

Please try to put yourself in my shoes....

Poster: You need more bio!
Diaz: I have enough bio, my water parameters are 0, 0, 10
Poster: your fish will grow and overwhelm your bio!
Diaz: I have enough bio, even when my little fish grow into medium size fish.

Repeat above conversation 4 or 5 times and hopefully you can understand how that would cause someone to lose their patience.

Having said that, you are totally right. I lost my patience with Ecoli and for that I apologize...Ecoli, I am sorry for the smug comments I made. It was wrong to include those derisive remarks. I should have just kept to the facts, and/or accepted that you would do things differently.
 
No need to apologize as I don't really get bothered by things posted here...although I do want to clarify that I did not say you don't have enough bio capacity, I said the sump could be optimized more. That is not a criticism but rather fact...and something I am sure very easy to do once the need arises. It is also fact that currently you certainly have enough bio cap.

My heater question was real and frankly was surprised by the hostility it was taken as. They apparently do make a two stage controller although I don't know how that would work.

To continue that discussion, why not use the embedded sensor on the heater as a secondary safety check?


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I've tried to avoid this thread like the plague. But I keep returning.as far as filtration. Aldiaz has done his part, He's has stocked according to his ethics and provided ample filtration given the circumstances. As far as Jlnguyen is concerned, anyone who thinks he is proud of posting pics of dead fish might be delusional.I've gone through several of his threads and have never seen a mention of $. So that is a poor angle of attack. I would still venture to say that % of survival in his care is greater than the wild. the reality is... most of the fish that we keep have a 1% survival rate. So I cant get mad about what dies in his care. It is a keeper like him that pushes the boundaries of what is compatible and what can be kept with what that helps us in the hobby. Sure he over stocks. but the majority of deaths that I have seen have not been a result of overstocking, and more due to incompatibility.

On the flipside aldiaz33 understocks and plans longterm. point out all the flaws that you want, but his stance is noble, his tank is gorgeous,and he has plenty of room/time to make corrections... I just hope most of You are using this thread to learn and not to pick sides. I imagine there is a common ground that could be found between both styles of fishkeeping, but ego won't allow it to be expressed within this thread.
 
I do need a clarification, since when I posted a dead fish, there was date stamped and a reason attached.

I posted the clarification right before I posted all of the photos...see post # 97.

1. Overstocking- cramming as many fish as possible into your tanks

2. Incompetence- running so many tanks that you forget to plug heaters back in, forget to unplug heaters, forget to add water conditioner, resulting in fish that froze to death, fish that were cooked alive and fish that died via chloramine poisoning...in other words, you are in way over your head.

3. Cruelty- attempting to keep hyper aggressive (incompatible) species together in an attempt to look cool and impress his groupies- the result fish tearing one another to shreds.

It doesn't matter how many koi filters you are running, the stock you try to keep will never survive in your 600G tanks. Some criticize my bio filtration, I am criticizing your bio-load. Your decision to buy these fish is completely irrational.

Bumblebee Groupers, Barramundi, Wels Catfish, Critically Endangered Siamese Giant Carp, Indo Tarpon, Pacu etc. will never be able to live for more than a year or two in your 600G tanks. We are talking about an eventual bio mass of over 1,000lbs...you would need a giant pond to be able to keep these fish.

You are in denial. Look at all the fish you have killed. Hardly any of them are anywhere near their adult size...they are still babies.

No need to apologize as I don't really get bothered by things posted here...although I do want to clarify that I did not say you don't have enough bio capacity, I said the sump could be optimized more. That is not a criticism but rather fact...and something I am sure very easy to do once the need arises. It is also fact that currently you certainly have enough bio cap.

My heater question was real and frankly was surprised by the hostility it was taken as. They apparently do make a two stage controller although I don't know how that would work.

To continue that discussion, why not use the embedded sensor on the heater as a secondary safety check?


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An apology was warranted...I lost my cool and I was the one who looked ridiculous. Since I created this thread, people have also been questioning the location of my heaters and sensors and your post (it could have been anyone's) was my tipping point. Not an excuse, just explaining what lead up to my blowout...like you said...too much coffee.

Regardless of whether or not I think I am right, that's just not cool and no excuse for being a jerk. I am sorry.

In regards to the heaters, I do use the eheims internal thermostat as a fail safe...set to turn off once temps hit 85F.
 
I just hope most of You are using this thread to learn and not to pick sides. I imagine there is a common ground that could be found between both styles of fishkeeping, but ego won't allow it to be expressed within this thread.

I appreciate your perspective, and the fact that you are trying to take a balanced approach, but I think people should pick sides.

I'm not saying this to be egotistical...it's about the FISH, not my ego or John's ego...take us out of the equation and I think the decision is clear.

It's not a matter of a difference in style...it's about mortality.

One side has a pile of dead fish.

The other has a thriving tank.

Pick a side.
 
I posted the clarification right before I posted all of the photos...see post # 97.

1. Overstocking- cramming as many fish as possible into your tanks

2. Incompetence- running so many tanks that you forget to plug heaters back in, forget to unplug heaters, forget to add water conditioner, resulting in fish that froze to death, fish that were cooked alive and fish that died via chloramine poisoning...in other words, you are in way over your head.

3. Cruelty- attempting to keep hyper aggressive (incompatible) species together in an attempt to look cool and impress his groupies- the result fish tearing one another to shreds.

It doesn't matter how many koi filters you are running, the stock you try to keep will never survive in your 600G tanks. Some criticize my bio filtration, I am criticizing your bio-load. Your decision to buy these fish is completely irrational.

Bumblebee Groupers, Barramundi, Wels Catfish, Critically Endangered Siamese Giant Carp, Indo Tarpon, Pacu etc. will never be able to live for more than a year or two in your 600G tanks. We are talking about an eventual bio mass of over 1,000lbs...you would need a giant pond to be able to keep these fish.

You are in denial. Look at all the fish you have killed. Hardly any of them are anywhere near their adult size...they are still babies.
The question is for Jose, but if you answer for him, he must be busy, and you need to read the questions first. Noone criticize your bio filtration. We just point out the flaw in your filter. You don't need to twist and turn like your panties... :screwy:
 
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