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nice waiting for more updated :) and seriously hope we can get umbees some day here in india :(
 
aclockworkorange said:
Step 1: Find dead horse
Step 2: Beat it

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Shots are being fired but not at you! Im not the type to roll over and play dead but clearly you are....:screwy:

JwHiser13 said:
WHAT WHAT!!! Tell em powda, hit em in tha jaw baby! Could not have said it better myself brother! Thanks for the kind words about my article being dropped as well, glad Chris and my other brothers aren't the only ones who see the crappy political game being played with these AWESOME fish! Lastly, I'm challenging you on the hybrid show fish (just because I want to see the beauty you describe lol)! UMBEEEEEEEE-POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! PS there will be some STRAIGHT AWESOMENESS coming soon for the direction the hobby "isn't going"!

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lol!!!! We the hobbyist determine which direction the hobby is going not 1 self Absorbed man. From the looks of things the hobby has no limitations as we the fish keeping community keep all types of cool things. So there is no coarse, no directions and surely no limitations for us MONSTER FISH KEEPERS!!!!! The Truth shall be Televised........ :)

oriqua said:
I want some world below hook me up! Chris it's amazing where the umbee journey progression has gone. Wb keep doing your thing and to the haters and box-orama types you continue to keep a stale frame of mind! This hobby has enjoyed fresh new variants due to vision and passion by UK , and WB taking it to a new level. Man Chris you know what the future holds - next let's bring in the red wine jacks......from the homeland and then onward south...

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Thank you brother and we shall continue to contribute to this great hobby!!!! Time for old minds to evolve....

ewok said:
people have no qualms keeping 'midevils' which are red devils crossed with midases... i don't see the issue here. there are supposedly bluer dovii and the more yellowish ones. same deal once you cross them together.
it's a friggin hobby. there will be mutts. i don't see how keeping F20 of something from the same pair that was brought into captivity 50 years ago being really that good, but yet it doesn't seem to bother people. there's no need to get all bent out of shape for something like this. what's the point of limiting distribution? there will always be people who choose to keep blue umbees, gorillas, rio mags, location x and just line breed them. they are all on this forum. there are always going to be ways to get those strains if you want it. it's not like he's crossing a buncha stuff together, mislabeling them and then unleashing them to unsuspecting people.

march on, brother! this should be interesting to see even though i have no space for these monsters.
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Well said brother :headbang2
 
how can we get Umbee s here in india any idea guys..any help would be appriciated
 
rocky2 said:
how can we get Umbee s here in india any idea guys..any help would be appriciated
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Ask UK. Ask those that an ship world wide. Ask Cichlidconection. Ask Rapps.
 
thanks will try
 
So WB, was it hard to get them to spawn? Think thats a pretty big acomplishment you got right there! Congrats!
 
David R said:
That isn't really correct, they are still creating a hybrid just at an intra-specific level, rather than inter-specific if two different species of the same genus are crossed, or inter-generic if they are from different genus, etc etc.


Petty technicalities aside, it will be very interesting to see how these fish turn out, some of them should be stunners! I would agree with whoever suggested not distributing them though, at least not initially. I'd rather see them grown out to a size where you can assess their potential before deciding whether to spread them around. At least there is no doubt about their origin though, although who knows what could happen in a few generations time.
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Intra-specific (like with the bichirs, if that was you) is the breeding of two different sub-species of a species. There is the genus Caquetaia then different species in that genus like myersi, kraussi, specs, and Umbriferum, but no sub species of either, only color variants (which do not or have not been broken up, yet at least). You could argue that they are hybrids due to different geographical locations, still being "intra specific" but taxonomically they are still classified as Caquetaia Umbriferua and haven't yet been described as separate species or ssp so that wouldn't be right either. This would work in the Midas complex however with Amphilophus! I also cannot wait to see what these bad boys turn out looking like! Really cool they have red and blue freckles!


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