How to pair up a hybrid couple?

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"izzy_here" I think you are right but still no evidence to proof your teory :) We will wait if they spawn I'll surely document here percentage of faders.
 
marto181 said:
"izzy_here" I think you are right but still no evidence to proof your teory :) We will wait if they spawn I'll surely document here percentage of faders.
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Thank you marto181, I can't wait to see your fry, I'm sure they will be beautiful no matter who is right.
 
The parrents still make a liplocks and sometimes the female make the "waggle" dance ;)
I raise the temperatures to 26 celsius but will raise them again at 28-29 degree.
I'm sure that the female will lay but I don't know if she let the male to fertelise them...
 
izzy_here said:
Ogliomelanism is the scientific name for fader as seen in natural species, fairly sure we can use the word in regard to hybrids in this instance. Not understanding why you sent me links showing threads on hybrids again. You keep talking about the quality of the fader, that wasn't the conversation to begin with. I thought we were talking about quantity, the actual number of fry you'd get when crossing a midas/red devil to another non fader species. Your examples all seem to be dealing with some type of parrot to another non fading species. You do understand that a parrot of any type does not carry as much of the fader gene as a midas or red devil? That at best it carries only half the number of fader genes of a midas or red devil? So starting with a fish carrying only half the number of fader genes of rd/midas, then crossing it to a texas for example, leaves you with fry carrying 25% fader genes. Cross a rd/midas to a texas and you'll end up with fry carrying 50% fader genes. Which fry will have better color? The heck if I know, but the spawn carrying half rd/midas genes will have twice the number of faders, it's simple math & genetics. So now taking this further. You're saying a spawn that carries 25% fader genes will produce 1 in 4 faders, that would be 25% of the entire spawn. It follows that a spawn carrying 50% fader genes would have twice that number, 2 in 4, which comes to 50%
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where are you getting this 25% fading gene synspilum go through a something similar to a fade only instead of barred they start out silver with a black stripe give me a site that teaches me the definition of ogliomelanism cause besides spell check underlining the word i can't find anything on the term
 
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heres a red devil texas hybrid
 
gamerpond1 said:
where are you getting this 25% fading gene synspilum go through a something similar to a fade only instead of barred they start out silver with a black stripe give me a site that teaches me the definition of ogliomelanism cause besides spell check underlining the word i can't find anything on the term
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I'm sorry I totally misspelled the word, it's spelled oligomelanic, oligomelanic - literally translated, reduced black. Although I'm not entirely sure I'm using it accurately here.
The color change syns go through is not the same thing at all. Many species go through a color change as they mature, that does not make them faders.
A blood parrot carries (at best) 50% fader blood, if you bred it to a nonfader species-for example a green texas-the fry will only carry 25% fader genes. A red devil or midas carries 100% fader genes, when bred to a non fader species-we'll say texas again-the fry will therefore carry 50% fader genes.
Any type of hybrid fader, bp, kkp, Rose queens, etc, will never have the percentage of fader genes a pure bred devil or midas carries.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
 
izzy_here said:
I'm sorry I totally misspelled the word, it's spelled oligomelanic, oligomelanic - literally translated, reduced black. Although I'm not entirely sure I'm using it accurately here.
The color change syns go through is not the same thing at all. Many species go through a color change as they mature, that does not make them faders.
A blood parrot carries (at best) 50% fader blood, if you bred it to a nonfader species-for example a green texas-the fry will only carry 25% fader genes. A red devil or midas carries 100% fader genes, when bred to a non fader species-we'll say texas again-the fry will therefore carry 50% fader genes.
Any type of hybrid fader, bp, kkp, Rose queens, etc, will never have the percentage of fader genes a pure bred devil or midas carries.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
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yeah i'm still not convinced on what your telling me that it would be higher chances of fading fry wiith a pure species i'm still think using a hybrid that has parents that would be considered super morphs of their species due to line breeding for color i hope to see what the results will be i'm pretty sure they will be close to using a hybrid but not as bright and look more like a red devils if the ones that fade
 
gamerpond1 said:
yeah i'm still not convinced on what your telling me that it would be higher chances of fading fry wiith a pure species i'm still think using a hybrid that has parents that would be considered super morphs of their species due to line breeding for color i hope to see what the results will be i'm pretty sure they will be close to using a hybrid but not as bright and look more like a red devils if the ones that fade
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You're convinced that a fish that carries less than 100% fader genes, somehow has more of that gene than a fish that does carry 100% of that same gene. Good luck to you sir.

Have you considered the fact that if what you're saying is true, masterpiece red texas would be a dime a dozen? Why do you think they aren't?
 
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