How to pair up a hybrid couple?

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If a midas crossed to a nonfader will (going by your explanantion) produce less than 1 out of 4 fader fry -1 in 4 would be 25%- why does midas to midas produce 100% fader fry? How would that even be possible? Going very strictly by your theory, a midas to midas mating should produce less than 2 in 4 faders, which is less than 50%.
 
You're convinced that a fish that carries less than 100% fader genes, somehow has more of that gene than a fish that does carry 100% of that same gene. Good luck to you sir.

Have you considered the fact that if what you're saying is true, masterpiece red texas would be a dime a dozen? Why do you think they aren't?

no i'm convinced that using a fish that has another color to add to the fading genes which is really just instead of change in color is just a loss of pigment and how is saying 1 out of 4 might fade make mp red texas more common wouldn't a masterpiece red texas prove my point on using hybrids for better color and rarity somewhat point closer to 1 out of 4
 
no i'm convinced that using a fish that has another color to add to the fading genes which is really just instead of change in color is just a loss of pigment and how is saying 1 out of 4 might fade make mp red texas more common wouldn't a masterpiece red texas prove my point on using hybrids for better color and rarity somewhat point closer to 1 out of 4
Good luck bro.
 
no i'm convinced that using a fish that has another color to add to the fading genes which is really just instead of change in color is just a loss of pigment and how is saying 1 out of 4 might fade make mp red texas more common wouldn't a masterpiece red texas prove my point on using hybrids for better color and rarity somewhat point closer to 1 out of 4
I know I'm just feeding the troll but this is drivin me nuts...
Your orginal point was to tell me that my estimate of 50% faders in regard to the op's citrinellum x carpintis spawn was far too high.
This is your original response to me.
"50% faders is really high for an estimate even with a hybrid female like a blood parrot rose queen ect. the ammount of fry that will fade on the first attempt will be 1 out of 4 and even thats still a high estimate"
You have yet to produce a single cogent theory to in any way disprove my estimate....which was what you disputed in the first place. So far every effort you've made to prove that point has been about the quality of the fader produced...which has nothing to do with the actual quantity. Which you yourself point out in your last post.
 
The color of the faders is different thing. Here we talking about a percentage of the faders at all not for their quality. I Think my faders will be nice :P
I'll wait to see them ;)
 
I know I'm just feeding the troll but this is drivin me nuts...
Your orginal point was to tell me that my estimate of 50% faders in regard to the op's citrinellum x carpintis spawn was far too high.
This is your original response to me.
"50% faders is really high for an estimate even with a hybrid female like a blood parrot rose queen ect. the ammount of fry that will fade on the first attempt will be 1 out of 4 and even thats still a high estimate"
You have yet to produce a single cogent theory to in any way disprove my estimate....which was what you disputed in the first place. So far every effort you've made to prove that point has been about the quality of the fader produced...which has nothing to do with the actual quantity. Which you yourself point out in your last post.


ok then give a bit of info that proves your theory like a thread i bet this one should clear everything up though either way
 
ok then give a bit of info that proves your theory like a thread i bet this one should clear everything up though either way

Working out the inheritability of a dominant gene using a punnet square should provide any additional info you might need. It really is worth your while to study some basic laws of genetics when creating hybrid fish, you might even find it interesting.
 
Wouldnt punnet squares not be 100‰ accurate because they're hybrids. It'd be a good start but wouldn't some fry only inherit or express genes from only 1 parent? That's just my theory.

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Wouldnt punnet squares not be 100‰ accurate because they're hybrids. It'd be a good start but wouldn't some fry only inherit or express genes from only 1 parent? That's just my theory.

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That is true, the fader gene is not genetically compatible with some species, hence the difficulty in creating rt/srt. The more you dilute the orginal fader species (mi/devil) blood, the fewer faders you'll see. As for traits expressed in hybrids, you can safely say they'll express traits somewhere in a range between the mother and father. Some will have lots of pearls, some will not. But pearling isn't a color mutation, while the fader gene in midas and red devils is a color mutation. So if you're talking about an intermediate cross, using only two species, one of those species carrying the dominant color mutation we know as "fader", you can reliably use a punnet square to figure out the outcome.

"...but wouldn't some fry only inherit or express genes from only 1 parent?"
You just described a dominant gene dude, a punnet square isn't just for recessives.
 
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