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Import cars tend to be more efficient when it comes to displacement, but they are more complex engines with variable valve timing and other gadgets that make more power with less cylinders. American hosre power has traditionally been to have the biggest engine you can fit under the hood with less focus on efficiency. For example the 2014 Dodge viper has a 8.4liter V10 that produces 640hp which is pretty weak for that amount of engine imo. Now a 2014 Nissan GTR has a 3.4liter twin turbo that produces 545hp. The Viper runs a 3.4 second 0-60mph with a 11.6 second 1/4mile while the GTR runs a 10.9 second 1/4 mile stock with a 2.8 0-60mph. The GTR also gets 23mpg highway while the Viper gets 19mpg.


Point is the Japanese and other countries have found greater efficiency in their engines, you see it in racing as well. not to say America's not catching up.

You could easily take a 4 cylinder like a STI or supra and drop serious dinero into it, throw slicks on it and run 7-10second quarter miles all day and the best part is these cars also handle better! Here's a 6.4 second quarter mile supra http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0faiWSBXTo

But nothing beats the sound of american 2000+hp!


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Also if you must. Factor in cost, maintenance, and reliability(price to fix breakdowns).. Also to say a GTR handles better than a viper? Only In the hands of an average driver but, someone skilled I'd take the viper all day around the track.. How many vipers race in different classes compared to GTRs?
Also horsepower numbers can be deceiving.. Peak horsepower is only part of it. The power curve is just as important if not more.. You may have a 4cyl. Produce 600-700hp @ 8-10k rpm but, what is it doing at 3-4k? Maybe half that if lucky? Now a V8 may produce 500hp @ 6k rpm yet at 3-4k rpm is producing more hp than the 4cyl. Couple that with the more torque from displacement and the v8 is dusting a more powerful car before the 4cyl. Can catch it.


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I sold my mr-s a month ago and was looking for a sti/wrx. The bug eye actually looks better to me than the eagle eye. Not by much though so it's not a deciding factor. I was thinking about whether or not I want to spend 10 grand on a wrx or push it up to 14 for the sti. By the sound of it getting a wrx and building it up would be a better idea? The 4 doors and the turbo on those Subaru is just soooooo attractive.
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I'd take care of you all in my cousins 1989 supercharged mini cooper.. I can barely control the damn thing haha its beast I think he has a supercharged v6 in it. Total weight plays a lot into the acceleration as far as I've seen, and he made that thing to be a rally car and light as a feather.. I can pick up the rear end by myself haha

Then again I am 6 foot 4 inch at 210 lbs.. Mostly muscle now thanks to a messed medication I had to be on to live properly

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Gotta love proper power/weight ratios!!!
 
I would like to see this. A family friend has a 2400hp turboed v8 that only runs sub 8 so I wanna see a 4 cylinder do it. But like I said you can make anything fast. I dont see the point in making the 4 cylinder a racecar though.

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212 MPH with a 4 banger.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/104102110111/saturn-ion-red-line-sets-speed-record

Plus all the HP in the world won't help when you you hit redline in the top gear.

As far as my dream ride. Had the choice between the viper and the Vette. Here is my choice.
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Though I still have my 06 redline which I got exclusively to learn stick. I refuse to drive any of the high end rides in Automatic just doesn't feel right, plus wife can't drive stick :D.

Previous owner did some serious mods but I still haven't taken her to the Dyno so not sure of the HP.

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Power to weight ratio plus awd and you have a road gripping monster of a car. That's the beauty of suburbs and audis. What's even better is taking one of these "4banger family cars" and embarrassing the crop out of a v8. I didn't do it in any of my 4 cylinder cars but my audi s4 6spd twin turbo I did:)

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Lol you're the only one showing ignorance bud. No where did I deny that 4 cylinders could be fast.

And when did this get so side tracked we need to be focused more on people's whips!!! Not on endless debate of opinions

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