Another Malaysia Airlines plane crashes.

[vitaly]

here is me in Kiev, so you would know i am not full of ****



some peaceful democracy loving protestors (these are the people that so-called separatists fight against)

 

[FMA4ME]

the current goverments in kiev is using neo-nazi's to suppress anyone who is againsts them. yes, i know it sounds crazy. but it is true.
the whole maidan area was littered with ultra-rightwing graffiti (celtic crosses, 88, wolf's hook). you can see plenty of pictures of that online.

the very first thing the new people did was banning russian language, while their supportes proceeded to demolish old soviet monuments and memorials to ww2 veterals.

people up east in Donetsk and in Craimia did want to put up with this. there was a referendum in both areas where most people voted to declare themselves a separate country.
craimia was than taken in by russia. donets area on other hand is being bombed by the federal army.

Doesn't sound crazy at all. I guess now there is audio of separatist starting to boast about the plane being hit, then realizing it was a civilian plane...smh

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

^ read post 27

Vitaly, thanks for a diff perspective. Sounds like alot of misinformation flying around


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[FMA4ME]

^ read post 27

Vitaly, thanks for a diff perspective. Sounds like alot of misinformation flying around


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I read it, I don't get what you're telling me.

 

[FMA4ME]

Never mind I get it. I didn't think we were referring to the same plane. oh well.

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

Never mind I get it. I didn't think we were referring to the same plane. oh well.

Lol, yeah you guys said the same thing.


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[kiep]

I don't think anyone in that region want to associate with Russian.

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[ecoli73]

As much as I do not like the current administration, I do not think this is a conspiracy on this.

The most obvious explanation is some over zealous rebel thought he was bringing down another military transport.

There will not be war declared over this, but I suspect there will be a lot of flak similar to the aftermath of downing the Iranian airline by the US navy.


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[pops]

I agree, they where as surprised as any when they saw what they shot down if you can go by the intercepted phone conversation. Putin going to be taking some heat for supplying and it. more sanctions more than likes, but with out Europe's support do to energy worries not really going to hurt them that bad.

vitaly, sorry for being an ass. not sure I buy into all you said, but never the less.

 

[vitaly]

I agree, they where as surprised as any when they saw what they shot down if you can go by the intercepted phone conversation. Putin going to be taking some heat for supplying and it. more sanctions more than likes, but with out Europe's support do to energy worries not really going to hurt them that bad.

vitaly, sorry for being an ass. not sure I buy into all you said, but never the less.

well, nobody really knows what happened. i am just giving my opinion. but american news totally ignores all the war crimes committed by the
new ukrainian government. so it would not surprise me if there is a lot more to this story than accidental shooting down.

ps. but the truth is that russian is not at war with ukraine. it is the new ukrainian government that is at war with its own people.
i guess most people get confused because in English language there is no distinction between a word for ethinic russian and russian (as in citizen of russian federation). and russian or russian speakers make up about 60% of ukraine.