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skjl47 said:
I hear often that the crime rate among illegals in the USA is very much lower than the rate of actual citizens. For some this is supposed to show how unfair the administration is toward illegals and the sanctuary cities. I do not see it that way.
Say for each rape or murder by an illegal there are ten of each by a citizen. The way I see it had that illegal not been in the country, then that particular rape or murder does not happen. Sorta like the way I have avoided bar fights over my years. I do not go into bars.
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Yes some like to claim that the crime rate among this group is low but there are very bad people coming in with the so called good ones.....ever heard of MS-13?
 
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skjl47 said:
I hear often that the crime rate among illegals in the USA is very much lower than the rate of actual citizens. For some this is supposed to show how unfair the administration is toward illegals and the sanctuary cities. I do not see it that way.
Say for each rape or murder by an illegal there are ten of each by a citizen. The way I see it had that illegal not been in the country, then that particular rape or murder does not happen. Sorta like the way I have avoided bar fights over my years. I do not go into bars.
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Yes some like to claim that the crime rate among this group is low but there are very bad people coming in with the so called good ones.....ever heard of MS-13?
 
skjl47 said:
hello; Yes I have been seeing news about the gang. Very bad gang.
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.....and probably all of them are illegals so so much for the goody two shoes nonsense.
 
krichardson said:
Yes some like to claim that the crime rate among this group is low but there are very bad people coming in with the so called good ones.....ever heard of MS-13?
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I have a second house down in Phoenix and I will tell you those punk thugs stir so much #&%* up down there. Car theft rings, drug smuggling rings, prostitution rings, abduction and kidnapping rings, illegal immigrant smuggling, these guys do anything that makes money with no conscience. I've spend time around American, thugs. Bikers, crips, bloods, they pale in comparison to MS-13 and the cartels. The cartels are like the Italian Mafia x100 there's no comparing them.

Once in the country they recruit. They grow and lure others in and buy properties and business to launder their money. They're a scourge, I'm all for keeping them out of this country.
 
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Dieselhybrid said:
Once in the country they recruit. They grow and lure others in and buy properties and business to launder their money. They're a scourge, I'm all for keeping them out of this country.
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Yeah....very violent,nasty bunch of folks.Its too bad that the politician enablers are not affected by what they do.
 
I honestly don't know the best solution. They definitely are sneaking in because of border laws and protections that could be strengthened. At the same time, I don't know if we should deport every illegal here or how we could do that. Think of all of the property that they own. The houses and businesses, does that all get appropriated to the states or fed? What about all of the children? The children that are citizens because they were born here but whose parents just got deported? We can't deport them, they have citizenship. We now just instantly created 1 million (guess) abandoned homeless children for adoption/foster systems that are already overpopulated. That will be an enormous drain on society.
 
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