Aquariums and gardening.

[duanes]

Here in Panama a few of the San Blas islands have gone under, as sea levels rise
One that has been inhabited for a century has gone under and the aboriginal people have had to move off.

 

[Ulu]

I’m at 300 feet elevation above mean sea level, so I’m waiting for the San Joaquin Valley to fill back up with salt water, and I will have Ocean front property.

 

[esoxlucius]

I’m at 300 feet elevation above mean sea level, so I’m waiting for the San Joaquin Valley to fill back up with salt water, and I will have Ocean front property.

Yeah, it'd be nice to finally get back the once great Tulare Lake....it's a shame you'd be at the bottom of it though, lol.

 

[esoxlucius]

Can anyone give me a positive ID on this small palm in my garden. I rescued it from a friends garden when they moved in summer 2020. During winter 2020 it didn't seem to be doing great but during spring this year it started improving.

I think my friend may have got a house palm which is more suited to indoor pots during the winter and bring it outside during the summer. I'd hate for it to die this winter in the garden for the sake of replanting it in a pot and bringing it inside.

When I went to get my anthurium the other week I saw one very similar to this in the houseplant section and to it was thriving, hence the reason for me thinking it's a more "delicate" species, Fishman Dave Deadeye Stanzzzz7

 

[Deadeye]

Can anyone give me a positive ID on this small palm in my garden. I rescued it from a friends garden when they moved in summer 2020. During winter 2020 it didn't seem to be doing great but during spring this year it started improving.

I think my friend may have got a house palm which is more suited to indoor pots during the winter and bring it outside during the summer. I'd hate for it to die this winter in the garden for the sake of replanting it in a pot and bringing it inside.

When I went to get my anthurium the other week I saw one very similar to this in the houseplant section and to it was thriving, hence the reason for me thinking it's a more "delicate" species, Fishman Dave Deadeye Stanzzzz7

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Might be a windmill but seems like it’s going to grow bush like rather than tree like.
So I’m not sure, but I know I’ve seen it before.

 

[esoxlucius]

From what I can work out it seems very much like a "trachycarpus", common names, Chinese windmill palm, windmill palm or chusan palm.

Or a "chamaerops humilis", common names, European fan palm, Mediterranean dwarf palm.

Thing is, both are down as winter hardy in UK. Yet this spring it looked on it's last legs, though to be fair, as you can see, it's doing ok now.

I don't want the cycle to be, do ok in summer, almost die in winter, come back the following summer, almost die in winter, etc etc etc.

Or, maybe it was because I only planted it last summer that it didn't fare too well in its first winter. It might be "bedded" in a bit better now and might do ok during this winter.

I'll probably just leave it where it is and see how it looks in spring of 2022.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

Looks like chamerops humilis to me. They do tend to have a lower more Bush like stance than trachycarpus.
They are quite hardy when mature but I have lost a couple of younger plants in the past.
I would add straw and fleece if your leaving outside. The biggest problem is wet and damp getting in the crown as they tend to rot. If you can keep it dry some how that would definitely help.

 

[Fishman Dave]

I agree that it will be chamaerops humilis. They are sold here in the uk as Trachycarpus but aren’t. They never get more than a bush size. Biggest I’ve seen was between 6 and 8 ft tall and about the same in diameter.
I also have one in a pot in the garden and used to worry about it in winter, but even the ones we had at -10 didn’t seem to do any harm although because it’s in a pot I have never really had much growth out of it .

Yours seems to be enjoying the freedom it has in the ground.
I would just leave it there personally.

 

[esoxlucius]

I agree that it will be chamaerops humilis. They are sold here in the uk as Trachycarpus but aren’t. They never get more than a bush size. Biggest I’ve seen was between 6 and 8 ft tall and about the same in diameter.
I also have one in a pot in the garden and used to worry about it in winter, but even the ones we had at -10 didn’t seem to do any harm although because it’s in a pot I have never really had much growth out of it .

Yours seems to be enjoying the freedom it has in the ground.
I would just leave it there personally.

If need be, whilst it's small, i could quite easily erect a protective wooden frame around it and get some heavy gauge polythene sheet from work.

They are meant to be hardy. Would that hardiness refer to their low temperature tolerance or tolerance to mediocre soil too? Do these palms typically need year round feeding?

 

[Fishman Dave]

From the little I know, I believe they are fairly temperature tolerant (albeit the better established they are the more tolerant it should be) and I think they are also used to poor soil (after all they thrive in Spain and Portugal) so feeding is probably not necessary.

Note that it doesn’t like chemicals so don’t water it with tap water as doesn’t like chlorine and fluorine.