What kind of Flowerhorn do I have?

[Magnus_Bane]

Magnus_Bane could probably offer better insight than me.

I personally wouldn't use a feather fin. Learned out the hard way that they won't keep those nice luxurious fins for very long in any sort of predator tank. Mine currently looks like he went thru WW3 already, least to say he doesn't live up to the name anymore.

Try synnodontis peticola or a striped Raphael cat instead, they are a bit tankier the euriptus is and the petricola is a bit flightier while the raphael tends to hide allot more and is heavily armoured.

 

[SteelTiger94]

I personally wouldn't use a feather fin. Learned out the hard way that they won't keep those nice luxurious fins for very long in any sort of predator tank. Mine currently looks like he went thru WW3 already, least to say he doesn't live up to the name anymore.

Try synnodontis peticola or a striped Raphael cat instead, they are a bit tankier the euriptus is and the petricola is a bit flightier while the raphael tends to hide allot more and is heavily armoured.

Oh boy, I wouldn’t want that! I don’t have any LFS by me that have large fish, maybe I’ll get a pleco. The FHs will be going into a lobby, my male is very personable and will love the attention, he’s also pushing 8-9” he just turned 2 a few months ago
I am hoping to breed them. Nobody sells FH by me, I think they’re such a beautiful and unique fish.
Anyone know the fertility rates of golden base FH?
My male digs every day and makes nests now and then.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

Oh boy, I wouldn’t want that! I don’t have any LFS by me that have large fish, maybe I’ll get a pleco. The FHs will be going into a lobby, my male is very personable and will love the attention, he’s also pushing 8-9” he just turned 2 a few months ago
I am hoping to breed them. Nobody sells FH by me, I think they’re such a beautiful and unique fish.
Anyone know the fertility rates of golden base FH?
My male digs every day and makes nests now and then.

Generally kamfa's and kamfamalau's have a 75-25 odds of being fertile while the other strains tend to have better rates. Only reason those 2 have such a high infertility rate is due to the heavier use of veija genes compared to the other strains.

Also I wouldn't add a pleco to the tank. They may be heavily armoured but they tend to just accept and take beatings rather then finding a place to hide from em. I would still recommend the stripped Raphael catfish tho, has more armour then a pleco, maxes out out at roughly 6-8in and they are almost strictly nocturnal so the likely-hood of the FH's and catfish interacting would be next to none if at all. Only downside is that you'll basically never get to see the cat, had mine in his tank for over 3-4 months before I caught a 2-3 second glimpse of it was it went from one hide to another.

P.s. I would highly recommend adding lots of hides to the tank regardless of an additional tank mate as the female will need places to hide from the male if and WHEN he gets too aggressive. The hides need to allow the female to be able to use em while also preventing the male entry. Also always have a back up plan for just in case you need to separate them, could either be a separate tank or at the very least a tank divider.

 

[SteelTiger94]

Generally kamfa's and kamfamalau's have a 75-25 odds of being fertile while the other strains tend to have better rates. Only reason those 2 have such a high infertility rate is due to the heavier use of veija genes compared to the other strains.

Also I wouldn't add a pleco to the tank. They may be heavily armoured but they tend to just accept and take beatings rather then finding a place to hide from em. I would still recommend the stripped Raphael catfish tho, has more armour then a pleco, maxes out out at roughly 6-8in and they are almost strictly nocturnal so the likely-hood of the FH's and catfish interacting would be next to none if at all. Only downside is that you'll basically never get to see the cat, had mine in his tank for over 3-4 months before I caught a 2-3 second glimpse of it was it went from one hide to another.

P.s. I would highly recommend adding lots of hides to the tank regardless of an additional tank mate as the female will need places to hide from the male if and WHEN he gets too aggressive. The hides need to allow the female to be able to use em while also preventing the male entry. Also always have a back up plan for just in case you need to separate them, could either be a separate tank or at the very least a tank divider.

Thank you for the input! I will Get hides for the female, she is only 3” compared to his 9”. right now I have him in a 55 and she’s in a 10. Both tanks are together and they can see each other. The female swims up to his tank and appears as if she wants to meet him…. He on the other hand acts as if she’s dinner lol
I find it interesting they recognize or appear to recognize their own species from separate tanks.
Anyway, she’s in the 10 for 2 weeks. I’ve been putting her water changes in his tank so he recognizes her smell, idk if it’ll make a difference.

lol that’s funny about your cat, the only time I see my squeaker is if I drop shrimp pellets in the tank. That is the only time he comes out for food.
My squeaker is in a 90 with two paired black angelfish and some panda Corey.
I send a pic of the little girl.

 

[SteelTiger94]

She is still stressed out from being shipped. I had to revive her when she first arrived, the dumb delivery guy was tossing the package back and forth like a basketball on his way up to my place.

 

[SteelTiger94]

Her name is Charlotte, the male is Frank.

 

[SteelTiger94]

This is Frank, I started feeding him live foods. Super worms, crickets, hoppers, grubs, feeder fish…. He’s been very happy

 

[Magnus_Bane]

Definitely a nice looking pair ya got there. Your female kinda looks like my female Red Dragon fader I currently have. Her name is Star and she ended up a dwarf. She's slowly getting closer to 4 years old at this point and already capped out at 5.5in. granted yours definitely looks better with all of that red on her, mine ended up more pink then anything. This is her btw.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

Thank you for the input! I will Get hides for the female, she is only 3” compared to his 9”. right now I have him in a 55 and she’s in a 10. Both tanks are together and they can see each other. The female swims up to his tank and appears as if she wants to meet him…. He on the other hand acts as if she’s dinner lol
I find it interesting they recognize or appear to recognize their own species from separate tanks.
Anyway, she’s in the 10 for 2 weeks. I’ve been putting her water changes in his tank so he recognizes her smell, idk if it’ll make a difference.

lol that’s funny about your cat, the only time I see my squeaker is if I drop shrimp pellets in the tank. That is the only time he comes out for food.
My squeaker is in a 90 with two paired black angelfish and some panda Corey.
I send a pic of the little girl.

Btw the reason they seem to recognize each other is for the same reason these hybrids were able to be made. They mostly focus on body shape to figure out what is part of their specie vs what is not. Most of the time in the wild, when ya end up finding a wild hybrid, it's generally due to them confusing each other for their own specie just because they have a similar body shape.

Wild hybrids are actually more common then allot of ppl think, it's just with how high mortality rates are out in the wild that most generally won't make it to breeding size. Not to say that it doesn't happen but that usually only happens in small ponds where the Gene pool tends to bottle neck after awhile since there are no new Gene's being introduced. With a less diverse gene pool most pure blooded fish will start to die out in mass due to diseases, viruses and bacteria being about to affect a majority of em leaving behind hybrids that are able to resist what the pure bloods could not.

 

[SteelTiger94]

Btw the reason they seem to recognize each other is for the same reason these hybrids were able to be made. They mostly focus on body shape to figure out what is part of their specie vs what is not. Most of the time in the wild, when ya end up finding a wild hybrid, it's generally due to them confusing each other for their own specie just because they have a similar body shape.

Wild hybrids are actually more common then allot of ppl think, it's just with how high mortality rates are out in the wild that most generally won't make it to breeding size. Not to say that it doesn't happen but that usually only happens in small ponds where the Gene pool tends to bottle neck after awhile since there are no new Gene's being introduced. With a less diverse gene pool most pure blooded fish will start to die out in mass due to diseases, viruses and bacteria being about to affect a majority of em leaving behind hybrids that are able to resist what the pure bloods could not.

Wow that is very interesting information, I catch hybrids from time to time when I’m fishing. I’m in Wisconsin so we don’t have any cichlids up here, but a common occurrence is a muskellunge mating with a northern pike or vice versa. Their offspring are called Tiger Muskie, very beautiful fish, my mom caught one last year it was just about 50”.
Star is really pretty. It would be nice having such pretty fish in a tiny size, tank upgrades can be killer.