All I am saying is "can" and "should" are two dif things. And you might enjoy your tank, but question I think should be asked is do your fish. Every tank is more crowded than Ma Nature, but there have to be limits if u care for the fish's comfort and well being. There is no set rule for stocking limit in aquaria, but may need to back it down a little if you have 50gallons of fish in a 100gallon aquarium. We like more fish per volume, the fish like fewer. I'm not heated, just my opinion.
125 gallon with PBASS
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ok guys thank you for the advice. It did sort of get out of hand. If someone wants to put more fish then their tank can handle, or just plain and simple a lot of fish then let them that is not your problem. They enjoy it that is the hobby. their fish are surviving thats all they can ask for. worry about your own tank in that case, or worry about mine because im the one that asked the question. I see now that i wont have them in for life, but now theat i got a job, I will get a 180 or more soon to better suit my fishes needs.
People can do whatever they want, but good luck making friends and getting advice when youre pegged as a lousy fishkeeper. I wouldnt sell a fish to someone who is so inhumane towards an animal and enjoys the abuse as a hobby.
u gotta go bigger on pbass. its just that way and thats why i stay away from them. u gotta keep fish within what u can afford pretty much and thats not to say we all havnt made mistakes like this because i assure u we all have. with a 125, u actually have tons of options as to what kinda stock u want, so u could look into that. there are alot of really cool fish that u will enjoy just as much im sure
most people here have not kept adult cichla. if they did, they would know better than to say 100g is good enough 
until you see in person how big these guys can get, you dont know. until you see the speed and power of a 18" orino or 22"+ temensis when they go all out, you dont know. i had mine a 210g for a few months. even when they were just a few inches, the tank seemed too small. then i moved them to the 400g. after a while it just didnt seem big enough. keeping them in a 125g seems downright cruel to me.
the truth, whether you like it or not is, people buy cichla because it's the "cool" fish to have. the truth is, a vast majority of people cannot care for them properly. myself included, that's why i got rid of them. everybody likes to buy little guys and grow them out. but they dont know what theyre in for. cichla are not easy to keep long term. they get huge, are messy, can move like lightning and the bigger they get the more sensitive they are to water parameters. HITH is a common problem with big cichla.
in my opinion 400g is too small. 300g is too small. 100g is just plain cruel. if i were ever to do it again, and i planned on keeping them for life, not to just to grow them out for a few months, i wouldnt not get them unless i could fit/afford a 750g tank or bigger.
if you can afford a big tank, dont buy big fish, it's simple. unless you dont care for the fish and just to do it to fit and and show off. there are plenty of cool ca/sa cichlids that would go great in a 100g tank. bottom line, cichla is not one of those fish.
until you see in person how big these guys can get, you dont know. until you see the speed and power of a 18" orino or 22"+ temensis when they go all out, you dont know. i had mine a 210g for a few months. even when they were just a few inches, the tank seemed too small. then i moved them to the 400g. after a while it just didnt seem big enough. keeping them in a 125g seems downright cruel to me. the truth, whether you like it or not is, people buy cichla because it's the "cool" fish to have. the truth is, a vast majority of people cannot care for them properly. myself included, that's why i got rid of them. everybody likes to buy little guys and grow them out. but they dont know what theyre in for. cichla are not easy to keep long term. they get huge, are messy, can move like lightning and the bigger they get the more sensitive they are to water parameters. HITH is a common problem with big cichla.
in my opinion 400g is too small. 300g is too small. 100g is just plain cruel. if i were ever to do it again, and i planned on keeping them for life, not to just to grow them out for a few months, i wouldnt not get them unless i could fit/afford a 750g tank or bigger.
if you can afford a big tank, dont buy big fish, it's simple. unless you dont care for the fish and just to do it to fit and and show off. there are plenty of cool ca/sa cichlids that would go great in a 100g tank. bottom line, cichla is not one of those fish.
Shootz I would still sport this even though its "overcrowded". Whoever has this tank is the man!!! What's wrong with this tank jcardona1?[YT]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dONqcKWYPpk&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dONqcKWYPpk&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/YT]
That is really no different than cramming 10 dogs into a 8'x10' pen. It's still cruel, even if these are "only fish" as some would say. Keeping creatures that you can't afford to house properly is just wrong. I know, I know. You didn't ask for my opinion, but you get it anyway. This is a public forum.
i think i read somewhere that was a temporary tank, they live in an 8000g tank, plenty of vids of that on youtube. and even if that was there permanent home i wouldnt agree with it. that's disgusting if you ask me. if you honestly think there is nothing wrong with that tank as it stands, then you have serious issues and should not be keeping animals. youre clearly the type of person who owns animals for the wrong reasons and treats them merely as objects to show off how cool you are. i have no respect for people like that.Makoa;4321021;4321021 said:
i'm nowhere near a PETA freak, but there really are some people who should not be allowed to care for living things.
