135g Peruvian biotope.

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I see, that makes sense with the water change increasing gradually. It's a great idea. Any luck with your vacuuming the sand during water changes?

I do like the busy look, it gives it more character. Besides, your current arrangement is what you think is best for your current situation/fish and that's what matters. Things will happen, the fish will grow, and the tank will change with them as the tank becomes more beautiful. Once again, just be careful on how long you wait to add your dither/schooling fish because as the terrors grow, the more territory they'll claim. You have to get them used to tank mates as well while they're young so when they grow, their tendency of just attacking will be less likely. That's my opinion anyway, my terror has yet to reach that monster size.

I'm looking forward to seeing your flash pleco! I actually just realized that the sultan pleco of mine was from Brazil and not Peru, but at least my SDs are found there too. Anyway, I do have one suggestion for your tank deco, and that is adding one more driftwood, but this piece has to be a thick one with a lot of character. It will be a nice contrast of thin and thick. More importantly it has to be tall and sticking out of the tank, if not, almost as tall as the tank and it would make your biotope look more natural IMO.

I hope your SDs behave and not touch your plants, but they are known to be herbivores so plants may be eaten. Just one warning on them, they are pigs(piranha's cousins)! They hogged all the food so I had to put in a lot more extra so my other fish could get a chance to eat. So that's one reason I only have two in my tank...

Like you said, the BHTetras are hard to come by, so just keep that in mind. You never know when the next batch will come.

Great job so far :thumbsup:

So far so good as regards vacuuming. The flow seems to push all the poop around the tank counter clockwise then force it up into the overflow. So it mainly gathers only in the far corner. I was a little worried about the collection of the filter being on the surface but so far so good! I know as my fish get larger the poop size will increase. So I will have to keep updating that one!

I agree that the tank will change around a lot. Besides the initial stress I believe it to be good for the fish. Especially cichlids which can become bored. The lfs didn't have any SD's so I requested they reserved 5 and let me know when they arrive. I am concerned about introducing the schooling fish, but I believe that there is only the alpha who may be a problem, the others are very small. Alpha only attacked the kribs, never once chased the cories - so hopefully it was only a dominance issue between the cichlids. However, I agree that sooner rather than later is the best option.

I have been looking for a thicker piece of wood. As my thoughts were the same! Although the thinner wood is good and looks like roots, I need a heavy branch! I also thought I could grow some plants off it to add a little more interest. I have kept my eye out, but the prices at the lfs ar ridiculous and I have yet to see any pieces I like by the lake! I have decided to thin my plants down to only three species. Dwarf hairgrasses, Amazon swords and some reed-like plants. Possibly a plant which will grow on wood also - not sure yet though. As I know some of my plants are not native to peru and this bugs me a little.

I have heard silver dollars are big eaters! The ones I will be getting should be no larger than a coin. If these guys don't work out it is possible to exchange for larger ones. However, i'd like them all to start off small. Hopefully being this size they wont out compete the other fish dramatically. I have decided on 5 because they like to school. Although if yours are happy as a two, I may reduce the numbers if need be. The BHTetras have been ordered from my lfs so hopefully they will arrive soon also. As you've said nows the best time to get them in.

I must say, I thought the sultan was from brazil - but didn't really want to rock the boat. I am very eager to see the flash pleco, from the pictures I have seen online and in books they can become quite the feature. They also don't grow too large which is typical of some of the L#'s!

I am pleased that you think it looks good! There are very few people in my local community that respect a good fish tank when they see one, so it feels good to recieve some praise! I feel like I am getting somewhere and acheiving something with this build. Moreso than any of the others I have tried. I would definately recommend a biotope to anyone!

Thanks again for checking in!
 
The plants on a heavy branch sounds like a sweet idea! It would be the centerpiece of attraction for the decoration. I'm sure you'll find the piece when the time is right. I'm not sure if you have one but you'll need a cave for fish to hide, mainly your female GT. She will need a place to retreat to from the aggression of the male(s). The cave should be big enough for your female but too small for your male. The plants and branches should do for your schooling fish to hide behind.

Silver dollars are really big eaters, you'll have to drop a lot of food at once instead of dropping little by little as you wait for them to finish what you've dropped so your other fish will get a chance to have some. SDs are fatass speedeaters!

I might pick up a flash pleco if I see one at the LFS, hahaha. I got a good deal on the sultan and there was nothing else that was good at the time so that's why I took it. I guess I'm not as patient as I think I am, hahaha.

Biotopes are the way to go!
 
The plants on a heavy branch sounds like a sweet idea! It would be the centerpiece of attraction for the decoration. I'm sure you'll find the piece when the time is right. I'm not sure if you have one but you'll need a cave for fish to hide, mainly your female GT. She will need a place to retreat to from the aggression of the male(s). The cave should be big enough for your female but too small for your male. The plants and branches should do for your schooling fish to hide behind.

Silver dollars are really big eaters, you'll have to drop a lot of food at once instead of dropping little by little as you wait for them to finish what you've dropped so your other fish will get a chance to have some. SDs are fatass speedeaters!

I might pick up a flash pleco if I see one at the LFS, hahaha. I got a good deal on the sultan and there was nothing else that was good at the time so that's why I took it. I guess I'm not as patient as I think I am, hahaha.

Biotopes are the way to go!

I agree that it would be cool. For the time being I am yet to find the right piece. It has to be something specific otherwise it would irritate me. As for the caves I currently have a few set up underneath various rocks, they all vary in size so I know there will be/is hiding places. However as the fish grow I will need to ensure they will accomodate the larger size. The plentiful branches (and the pants when they grow) should provide enough cover and respite for the schooling fish I hope.

I am befining to question if the SD's are suited to the setup/what I want. If they are largely herbivores, I really don't want them destroying my plants. I also don't want them out competing my other fish and creating a lot of waste. I also question if there would be enough space with the footprint for a shoal of 5. I am considering just enlarging my group of BHTs and possibly another larger tetra species. However, nothing is set in stone.

I often think to myself, a golden nugget plec would look great. They're only from down the river in brazil, haha. This is only because my flash hasn't arrived yet!

Biotopes are certainly the way to go!

Looks awsome, only makes sense that someone that helps other people so much has a killer setup..


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Thankyou for your kind words. I like to believe that one: I help the people on the forum, and two: that my setup is killer.

I will endeavour to get some updates soon. Hopefully some new additions too :D
 
Hmmm, well there's certainly a lot to think about regarding your planned community. The SDs are a possible threat to your plants but they reach a size that lessens the possibility of being eaten by the GT. On the other hand, the BHTs are more likely to be eaten considering their smaller size and since your GT is an F1 also. The GTs are a threat to your plants as well since they like to dig up sand, maybe not as much as other cichlids but definitely during breeding time. Honestly though, it's highly possible that SDs won't even touch the plants, IMO.

My suggestion would be getting a big school of BHTs in order to fix a probable plant and food problem. The only draw back is if/when the GT will chomp them up you'll have wasted money on the BHTs.

It all comes down to your fishes' preferences, the look that you're aiming for, and the sacrifices/risks that you're willing to take. I hope you'll find the right balance.
 
Hmmm, well there's certainly a lot to think about regarding your planned community. The SDs are a possible threat to your plants but they reach a size that lessens the possibility of being eaten by the GT. On the other hand, the BHTs are more likely to be eaten considering their smaller size and since your GT is an F1 also. The GTs are a threat to your plants as well since they like to dig up sand, maybe not as much as other cichlids but definitely during breeding time. Honestly though, it's highly possible that SDs won't even touch the plants, IMO.

My suggestion would be getting a big school of BHTs in order to fix a probable plant and food problem. The only draw back is if/when the GT will chomp them up you'll have wasted money on the BHTs.

It all comes down to your fishes' preferences, the look that you're aiming for, and the sacrifices/risks that you're willing to take. I hope you'll find the right balance.

I am unsure because I really like the shape and colour that the SD's can achieve (like your two). But there seems to be more drawbacks than originally planned. There are two sizes available to me: coin size and the diameter of a can size. So at the minute, I may try the smaller ones and see how it goes - the lfs I would get them from is very co-operative so hopefully there would be no issues in swapping/exchanging them.

I am unsure yet as to whether these GTs are likely to eat the tetras. Because there is very littl info on the it's hard to gauge. Hopefully not - they may just be rougher than the saums.

I never experienced any digging/tearing of plants from the saums either. I know each fish is different and this is a different species. But hopefully I will be lucky again!
 
Nice man, when will you be picking up the SDs? Is there something you are waiting for before you add them?

Best of luck to you and keep us posted!
 
Nice man, when will you be picking up the SDs? Is there something you are waiting for before you add them?

Best of luck to you and keep us posted!

I will hopefully getting them this weekend. The store didn't have any last time I went and with work and college getting busier i just haven't had chance. I am going fish shopping on sunday, and no matter what I will come back with a(some) new addition(s).

I will be sure to post some pictures. I have a few updated pics I would like to add anyway, so I may do that later.
 
I managed to get away from college early today. So I went to an lfs I don't normally visit and bagged myself 2x SD's and 10x false rummy nose tetras. At a killer price too. The false rummy noses didn't have a price, but had been there a while. But with the real ones in the tank along nobody wahted them. So I got all 10 of them. I rang around and I reserved another 3 SD's for pickup on sunday. I will be sure to tank some pics once they have settled :D:D:D
 
Some pics of the SD's and tetras :)IMG_2674.JPGIMG_2673.JPGIMG_2679.JPG The SD was caught in the act, Eating my plants!

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