180 Big enough or not ?
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265 gallon for a 14" male not big enough.....
This just furthers my opinion that people on this forum get a bit out of control with their recommendations on tank sizes.
I'm sure your fish appreciates a larger tank, but it's by no means a necessity.
And I agree with the poster on page 2 I believe. It all comes down to water quality. If you have a small tank for a Dovii (180 or 240, etc...), you're going to have to do a lot of water changes. But as long as the water quality is kept up, I don't think a 180 is too small.
I have been thinking about this a lot and in my situation I am going to go ahead and try it with a 180. I keep a tight WC shedule on all my tanks including this 1 already. In terms of the fish size, no one can predict exactly how big the fish will get. If I end up with a fish closing in on 22" I will have no choice but to find a way to upgrade the tank. I think in all likely hood the fish wont get that big and there is no reason to get a larger tank unless it is absolutely neccessary because I already have the 180.
I would of course upgrade the tank if the opportunity arouse, just dont want to HAVE to at this time
I would of course upgrade the tank if the opportunity arouse, just dont want to HAVE to at this time
or think of it in terms... What is the largest fish you could house in a 180, and most people would say close to the width of the tank 23" or w/e inside dimensions
Yes, 265 not big enough...which if you had experience with large dovii, youd know exactly what Im talking about.
Your comments are a perfect example of someone offering advice on a fish that theyve obviously never kept, at least to a considerably large size.
This isnt a lethargic catfish that lies on the bottom..nor is it a JD, midas or anything along those lines.
But keep on putting advice out there about something youve never experienced and think you have mathematically solved. Its the new hip thing to do around here.
That being said, if anyone needs engine work done on their airplane, heart surgery performed or advice/help surgically attaching severed limbs, send me a pm. I have never done any of those things but I read about them on a forum AND I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, so Im more than qualified to offer advice or perform the actions myself.
OH YA liking this thread.
Folks, think back to that local sports bar, corner restaurant> You know, the one where someone set-up a fish tank keep it up some and fed the fish. You saw a tank maybe an 80 gallon with few or one huge fish the pleco so big it cant turn, the silver dollars 5+ inches long all swimming around some big old JD or what have you that is so big all he can do is pretty much stay in one spot and fin at the mid tank level. What was your gut feeling.?You guys get my drift I think the point is fish keeping is also enjoying the fish as they motor around in a natural fashion at least the extent possible in an aquarium.
MY friend you can raise a Wolf in an 80 but these are swim around predators and the better question is = DO you want your fish, Any fish, to move around patrol their territory which is the tank, or not.
Not to pick on you but this is as ridiculous as someone bragging about a silver Arowana in 220= Please it can be done but WHY!!
With all due respect that is the bottom line, clean up etc is secondary.
Folks, think back to that local sports bar, corner restaurant> You know, the one where someone set-up a fish tank keep it up some and fed the fish. You saw a tank maybe an 80 gallon with few or one huge fish the pleco so big it cant turn, the silver dollars 5+ inches long all swimming around some big old JD or what have you that is so big all he can do is pretty much stay in one spot and fin at the mid tank level. What was your gut feeling.?You guys get my drift I think the point is fish keeping is also enjoying the fish as they motor around in a natural fashion at least the extent possible in an aquarium.
MY friend you can raise a Wolf in an 80 but these are swim around predators and the better question is = DO you want your fish, Any fish, to move around patrol their territory which is the tank, or not.
Not to pick on you but this is as ridiculous as someone bragging about a silver Arowana in 220= Please it can be done but WHY!!
With all due respect that is the bottom line, clean up etc is secondary.
Give me a break.....14" too big for a 265.....Come on. We're getting a bit overkill here.
That's 8X Length and 2X width (small amounts of rounding here).
I keep my single tiger barb in a 55 since the 30 gallon was cruel as well.
And let's keep the personal comments aside. You don't know me, what I've kept, etc...
That's 8X Length and 2X width (small amounts of rounding here).
I keep my single tiger barb in a 55 since the 30 gallon was cruel as well.
And let's keep the personal comments aside. You don't know me, what I've kept, etc...
Unfortunately in this hobby the question often asked is "what can I do?", when it ought to be "what should I do?"
With the exception of some of the little kids that hang out on MFK, the vast majority of people already know the responsible answer, before they even ask.
BTW seedubs1, I couldn't help but recall this past discussion started by you, only a few months ago, and the answers that you recieved. I guess since then you've decided that you know better than those that actually have kept large male dovii?
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...get-this-tank-and-raise-a-pair-of-Dovii-in-it
With the exception of some of the little kids that hang out on MFK, the vast majority of people already know the responsible answer, before they even ask.
BTW seedubs1, I couldn't help but recall this past discussion started by you, only a few months ago, and the answers that you recieved. I guess since then you've decided that you know better than those that actually have kept large male dovii?
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...get-this-tank-and-raise-a-pair-of-Dovii-in-it
Yup.....Never had a big male Dovii. Can't dispute that.
But that thread was about housing a pair. Not a single male. The thread was more for information on breeding habit, and if the male would kill the female in a 275. Since it was obviously going off track with people jumping in saying that they needed more width due to the size of a male, I just said "ok. Thank you guys! " and was done with the thread.
I've done my research, and have kept other big cichlids. And I have my opinion on what it takes to house a single big male (of any species).
But that thread was about housing a pair. Not a single male. The thread was more for information on breeding habit, and if the male would kill the female in a 275. Since it was obviously going off track with people jumping in saying that they needed more width due to the size of a male, I just said "ok. Thank you guys! " and was done with the thread.
I've done my research, and have kept other big cichlids. And I have my opinion on what it takes to house a single big male (of any species).
Thing about the internet is... you can "research" and find something to "support" just about anything.
