3-Bars Indo or ST? Part 2

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so it seems the only ones who think the first one is an ST are the ones involved in the sale of it...
 
Also, if you look at the fish that Michael had for sale, I think it has the body shape and shorter snout that matches the characteristic of ST's even though it has an IT tail pattern. Its a little hard to tell from the pics in his thread, but I think its pretty clear from the first picture. The head is cut off in the second pic.

While Michael's fish has the same pattern as Sticky's first dat, the head shape is not the same, it looks more like Sticky's 2nd dat, the one that everybody agrees is an ST

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124141
 
I am going with pulcher, nice widebars if there is anything I have learned from selling over 30 widebars from 10-18" in the last few months, Is that using the tail to tell the differnce is not accurate at all.
 
csx4236;1709772; said:
I am going with pulcher, nice widebars if there is anything I have learned from selling over 30 widebars from 10-18" is that you cannot tell the difference from looking at the backtail. Just my opinion.
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So if you dont look at tail pattern, what do you base your opinion off of? Body stripe? Body shape?
 
JD7.62;1709658; said:
BFR, I do not need to prove it is an ST. Im not the one saying it "clearly" is something.

Eken,

1. How can you be so sure from the pics? Blacktip said the first fish is actually taller!
2. Are we looking at the same fish? I see taper AND a swept back bar.
3. Tail pattern is NOT a good way to ID STvsIT!
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So according to you, what makes this fish an ST, or not an IT? Many members have posted why they think the fish is an IT, with some respectable aspects of how the fish looks. I do not mean to offend you bro, but you sound like a kid who just refuses to be told that he is wrong...


And I am talking about this picture:

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csx4236;1709772; said:
I am going with pulcher, nice widebars if there is anything I have learned from selling over 30 widebars from 10-18" in the last few months, Is that using the tail to tell the differnce is not accurate at all.
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Mike please let us know how you ID dats like this, if you're not Id by the tail what els beside that? the snout, bar, and pattern? give us some more infor.


Also please keep this as drama free, i don't want this thread to get close or turn into a bad thread. This thread got alot of information and i've learn alot about dats today.:D
 
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BushFishRox;1709764; said:
so it seems the only ones who think the first one is an ST are the ones involved in the sale of it...
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:screwy:

If I was wanting to buy it...wouldnt I say its an IT for a lower price? :banher:

Eken, look I can use paint too!!

Blue line representsa 90* angle. Notice the bar is NOT straight up and down. Yellow line clearly shows a taper. :screwy:

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lol... Hope you did not take it badly man. I did not intend to offend anybody with my comments. The OP asked for opinions, and he got mine.

So basically, what is your point of view? What do you think this fish is JD?



:screwy:

If I was wanting to buy it...wouldnt I say its an IT for a lower price? :banher:

Eken, look I can use paint too!!

Blue line representsa 90* angle. Notice the bar is NOT straight up and down. Yellow line clearly shows a taper. :screwy:[/quote]
 
Im LEANING towards pulcher.The only point Im trying to make is that NO ONE can say that the first fish is "clearly" or 100%, or that it is indeed one fish or another for certain. The best thing we can go on is what the original owner is saying.

One more thing im surprised no one has mentioned. 3-bar ITs USUALLY have a "hump" at the top of their third bar. I just dont see it exhibited in either fish discussed.
 
The bar doesn't really change direction towards the back at the bottom. It is a constant strait line that slightly slopes back as it goes down. Wide bars have more of a change of direction look on the bottom of that bar.

I am surprised that this post got so many hits, because to me there is no question that it is an IT. I do not see ANY Pulcher characteristics on that Dat at all.

Some people are taking this a bit to seriously. At the end of the day we do not need to take this home and will not win any money for guessing correctly so we should just give our opinions and not try to convince people to change there mind when they are obviously already set.

I will say that this is deffinitly one of the more entertaining threads in a while ;)
 
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