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jlnguyen74;4409447; said:
FYI, none of the fish kept in aquarium will have its normal lifespan. All will die, just a matter of time ;)


There's no different between this and a 12'x2'x2' :grinno: It's all about attention! ;)


I past the age of being "cool!" :ROFL: I'm just being me!

actually fish should live their normal life span in the tank if not longer. They have no predators, no competition for food, and many other elements missing killing them early. They only have irresponsible owners.


Why are you trying to instigate?
 
Chaitika;4409455; said:
It doesn't always take a mod to resolve issues. So long as the conversation remains respectful, it's perfectly fine for members to let the OP know what they think of this practice.

I don't agree with this practice, and I think it's cruel but is my telling him it's wrong going to change anything? Especially if it's being done for shock value?

Where is the factual information though? If i was a mod I would provide factual evidence of this and it being wrong. Oddball could do it right off the top of his head.. I don't think you understand how much of a difference the red makes if you just dropped a line like this.....

"That isn't right, nor easy to look at."
 
TheCanuck;4409467; said:
Where is the factual information though? If i was a mod I would provide factual evidence of this and it being wrong. Oddball could do it right off the top of his head. It's not my job to watch over a forum and make sure factual links are provided. I don't think you understand how much of a difference the red makes if you just dropped a line like this.....

"That isn't right, nor easy to look at."

Are you kidding? YOU want ME to provide factual information as to why this is wrong because my name is in RED? I'm sorry I'm not Oddball, but there are already how many posts in this thread explaining why and how this is wrong.

Feel free to dig up the facts and statistics if you think it's going to change the OP's mind. 99% of members already know it's wrong to put saltwater fish into freshwater and vice versa.
 
TheCanuck;4409467; said:
Where is the factual information though? If i was a mod I would provide factual evidence of this and it being wrong. Oddball could do it right off the top of his head. It's not my job to watch over a forum and make sure factual links are provided. I don't think you understand how much of a difference the red makes if you just dropped a line like this.....

"That isn't right, nor easy to look at."

i dont think its a mods job to tell people what to do with their fishes.
 
You cannot turn any random fresh water fish into a salt water fish. You cannot turn a salt water fish into a fresh water fish. Each species of fish has a specific range of environmental variables that it can survive within. While a fish may be used to one set of extremes of those variables and you can accustom said fish to the other end of the extremes of said variables by adjusting its environment over time, you cannot acclimatize a fish to living in an environment whose level of saltiness -- and other chemicals, temperature, variables, etc... -- is outside of the range for which that particular species can survive.

Fresh water fish and salt water fish have evolved to survive in the salinity -- the level of saltiness -- of their native environments. Salt quantity isn't the only difference between salt and fresh water. There are many other variables, ranging from other chemicals to various organisms. These would have to be adjusted, too.

There are a handful of species that can go between fresh and salt water, but most of those require being in one or the other (or both) for some period of time throughout their life cycles.



http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6016770.html

This patent covers a process for acclimating saltwater fish to fresh or brackish water. It explicitly calls out that not all species are compatible with such a change in their environment. The subject of fresh to saltwater conversion or acclimatization is completely avoided. (Coincidentally, the patent has expired due to non-payment).



These articles and further research shows no evidence that anything but very specific species are capable of moving from freshwater to saltwater. Of those species, I could find none that move from freshwater to saltwater permanently and, certainly, no evidence of a acclimatization regimen that might enable a random freshwater fish to live permanently in a saltwater environment.




The red thing mostly has to go along with informing the younger ones of mfk. They look up to red, as i know i once did for everything. I got a little more knowledge and still follow mostly what they say. Most can see this is just stupid, but some can't. Also some people just come in here to instigate, and they should receive an infraction
 
TheCanuck;4409456; said:
actually fish should live their normal life span in the tank if not longer. They have no predators, no competition for food, and many other elements missing killing them early. They only have irresponsible owners.


Why are you trying to instigate?
Actually, they do have predators - Leak tank, glass wall, glass lids, etc... are just a few... Why your Bumble bee grouper die? You know the answer... "Should" doesn't, and never, mean "Will!"

The OP is already a year behind...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247021

Really, without adventurous pioneer, there wouldn't even a fish called "Flowerhorn." It's very easy to click on the "back" button when you see something you don't like, instead of typing a long, hypocrite, annoying rant.
 
jlnguyen74;4409503; said:
Actually, they do have predators - Leak tank, glass wall, glass lids, etc... are just a few... Why your Bumble bee grouper die? You know the answer... "Should" doesn't, and never, mean "Will!"

The OP is already a year behind...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247021

Really, without adventurous pioneer, there wouldn't even a fish called "Flowerhorn." It's very easy to click on the "back" button when you see something you don't like, instead of typing a long, hypocrite, annoying rant.

Once again, my fish passed when it was at the lfs out of my hands.... Its such a joke that you claim to be a "adult"
 
TheCanuck;4409467; said:
Where is the factual information though? If i was a mod I would provide factual evidence of this and it being wrong. Oddball could do it right off the top of his head.. I don't think you understand how much of a difference the red makes if you just dropped a line like this.....

"That isn't right, nor easy to look at."
The door always opens! Don't let it hit you on your way out! :grinno:

TheCanuck;4409516; said:
Once again, my fish passed when it was at the lfs out of my hands.... Its such a joke that you claim to be a "man". Please grow up
And why your fish at the LFS? It's your fish, how can it be out of your hand?
 
:irked: how tragic this was done for shock value or so-called thinking outside the box
poor fish...i hope it wasn't intended to be long term...
 
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