Another aquabid scam

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interesting, i must have missed a hell of alot in the time i have left rays till now looking to give it another go. when i left shawn seemed like a good source now i see it is the opposite. i live only a few miles from were he lives so you think if i were to go there and see the rays i would like, you guys think it would go better then if it were to be a long distance deal.

my thing is he has a "Colombian Orbingnyi" female and a true hystrix listed that are decent prices and i have been thinking of getting them. now my lfs has motors at 6" for $300-400 and some misc sp(i think the yapize or how ever that is spelled) labed as hystrix for $125. he would be cheaper, but do you think it would be worth it for someone in my situation? being so close anything bad could get handled in person face to face.

i think if you are picking them up personally you should be good as long as you know what to signs to look for in healthy looking rays.
 
I'd see if you can even get a hold of Shawn, see if he'll even sell you a ray.
He's pretty sick of the drama, and it's kinda unclear if he's even gonna deal with people anymore. He is basically a wholesaler to fish stores in MN. Those customers are happy with his fish and there's no drama.

Take away John and Shawn and it might be kinda slim pickins for Flower/Tigers.

Seems many of the vendors go away, yet not many new ones that stick around. Not a good trend for the future of the hobby.

wow really, look at all the auctions that he has on aquabid lol. i guess sbuse you will need to buy it from aquabid and take your chance with him shipping it to you.
 
I'd see if you can even get a hold of Shawn, see if he'll even sell you a ray.
He's pretty sick of the drama, and it's kinda unclear if he's even gonna deal with people anymore. He is basically a wholesaler to fish stores in MN. Those customers are happy with his fish and there's no drama.

Take away John and Shawn and it might be kinda slim pickins for Flower/Tigers.

Seems many of the vendors go away, yet not many new ones that stick around. Not a good trend for the future of the hobby.

good the only way for him to scamming people is for him to get out of the business... with all the evidence in front of you you still support this man... he is a top notch scam artist and his top tool is for you to trust him.... I did and I had to pay a hefty price for it.... if sean goes away to f'n care you got top notch sellers are more than willing and able to take shawn's place .....let him fade away into obscurity and never be thought of again.... then we can deal with jeff wess george mike john excetera excetera....

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I wouldn't buy anything from him. Especailly now after another one of these posts. Sure he's delivered for a few people they all have but he's even dishonest in his listings,best people to buy rays from are fellow hobbiest who have a few extra pups to sell. If everybody just bought like this it would change the game .i don't trust any vendors except Asians .
 
I wouldn't buy anything from him. Especailly now after another one of these posts. Sure he's delivered for a few people they all have but he's even dishonest in his listings,best people to buy rays from are fellow hobbiest who have a few extra pups to sell. If everybody just bought like this it would change the game .i don't trust any vendors except Asians .

LOLOL! Quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard!
 
I wouldn't buy anything from him. Especailly now after another one of these posts. Sure he's delivered for a few people they all have but he's even dishonest in his listings,best people to buy rays from are fellow hobbiest who have a few extra pups to sell. If everybody just bought like this it would change the game .i don't trust any vendors except Asians .

well that's kind of messed up... I don't really give a damn what race you are as long as you don't have a bad reputation
as an american I believe we need to bring in as many different rays possible and as often as possible.

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I'm not defending him. The last Thai order was a nightmare. No one knows this better then the guy that got the worst of it. Hopefully it ends up working out. I've gotten plenty of nice rays from him and will continue to. You guys can get them wherever you want, that's the beauty of free trade, we can all buy from whoever we want..... :)

If you want rays that people aren't breeding you don't have much of a choice except to trust vendors. Sucks, but there's no way around it.

Kinda like sports teams.... LOL We all have our favorites, when they botch the playoffs you don't jump ship and try to convince everyone they're the worst team ever. If you develop a decent relationship there's gonna be ups and downs but if it ends up all good then why end it?
 
It because you guys are American .... Not your fault you were born this way lol jk

I'm as hillbilly Canadian as you can get .

I'm only saying this about the Asians because I did about 25grand worth from a vendor on a few orders and all were pleasure except the 10 grand order that all came in dead that we're high quality bds and black rays. They were replaced a few weeks later with higher quality rays at no expense.not even shipping they covered it all.my bro just ordered 10k worth from top stingray they all came in mint. Theirs also mike who orders many from Asia with amazing results.

You think Shawn would replace 10 grand worth of rays if he doa them.from what I've heard about him you'd be lucky to even get what you ordered let alone worrying about doa.also another thing about the Asians they won't ship skinny garbage rays to prevent losses like some Germans have to me lol
They will bite the losses get them fat and healthy and ship when dealing with wild stuff. All asian rays I've ever seen ordered came in healthy fat and eating.
 
I'd see if you can even get a hold of Shawn, see if he'll even sell you a ray.
He's pretty sick of the drama, and it's kinda unclear if he's even gonna deal with people anymore. He is basically a wholesaler to fish stores in MN. Those customers are happy with his fish and there's no drama.

Take away John and Shawn and it might be kinda slim pickins for Flower/Tigers.

Seems many of the vendors go away, yet not many new ones that stick around. Not a good trend for the future of the hobby.

John will always be around because he loves to prove people wrong and loves to offer what no one else does at prices that can't be matched. My brother just got two nice rays from Shawn last Saturday so he is still around just limited. Maybe it is because my brother is not a member of this site?
 
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