guys, i just got back from Kiev in may. i have lived there for the past couple of years.
there are no pro-russian separatists. they are eastern ukrainians (who are russian speakers) who decided not to recognized the new government (the old one was overthrown). i was a witness to many events in kiev.
russia is NOT at war with ukraine. it is the new new government that is at war with its own people.
i dont know what happened with the plane, but i have a feeling that it is a false flag in order for Obama to send weapons to the government in Kiev.
if you have any questions feel free to ask