Any interest in marble, tiger or teacups?

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DavidW;3685386; said:
crap on the market and piss off every other ray vendor by your undercutting the market

good points, except for the one above. nothing wrong with a little friendly competition and a free market. it should be the buyers, not the sellers that determine the fair market price for any given good. even moreso since this may only happen a few times :)
 
Tough love needed here imo

While your plan is generous I think it is a bit naive.
Well, having " been there and done that" and seen 100 other guys do the same thing I KNOW it is a lot naive.
If you do not allow (financially) for at least a 30%-50% mortality rate on rays coming in and again on rays going out you will probably go bankrupt on your first shipment, especially with Tigers and retics. Sometimes you will lose all of a given shipment!
Have you really factored in the costs of their food? meds? utilities costs to house them? new bags? heat packs? gas and mileage to the airport etc? time spent changing water and most especially of all the major stress (on YOU) ?
Even if you do manage to get a shipment 100% healthy in and then out again, the best you can hope for is to break even, crap on the market and piss off every other ray vendor by your undercutting the market, which is already tough.
Make sure to buy only from a reputable wholesaler, the only problem with that is that there is hardly such a thing as a reputable wholesaler. Absolutely do not send money out of the country ( or even state) in advance unless you have a good trust based relationship with the vendor.
People on forums talk a lot about buying or wanting this or that, but I can tell you from decades of experience , as will any other vendor on MFK or anywhere else, that most are just tire-kickers when it comes to actually putting their money where their mouth is.
unless you almost literally have money to give away I would seriously reconsider the plan, otherwise all that will happen is that you will lose a bunch of money and end up hating rays, all for what? selling a ray below market price to people who owe you nothing and to whom you owe nothing?
I don;t mean to be rude ( well maybe just a little) , just telling you like it is.
Do the math!!!
THIS IS A TERRIBLE BUSINESS PLAN YOU GOT!!!!!

Ok.... Thanks for your input. You may want to think before your speak. You have no idea what my business plan is nor do you know what my expenses are.
 
" A fool and his money are easily parted"
I know exactly what your business plan is...you don;t actually have one!! what you have is a little fantasy and you don;t like being busted on your " talk is cheap" factor .
Expenses and costs are easily calculable.
I know what the rays you propose to sell cost on the river, shipping rates and approximate survival rates. You are several steps down the line from those prices.
Cop an attitude, that's just fine, lets talk in 6 months, then you can tell us all how much you made Vs how much it cost you to make that.
I have offered you some good advice...so whatever you do...don;t say that nobody warned you.
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You may want to think before you spend! seriously, detach a little and think!!!!!! wtf is the point of what you propose? what's in it for you? what's in it for the rays?
:)
have a nice day
 
I really think David was actually looking out for your best intrests on this venture. I'm not trying to be negative but every point David made was completely right even the one about the other vendors.
 
" A fool and his money are easily parted"
Expenses and costs are easily calculable.
I know what the rays you propose to sell cost on the river, shipping rates and approximate survival rates. You are several steps down the line from those prices.
Cop an attitude, that's just fine, lets talk in 6 months, then you can tell us all how much you made Vs how much it cost you to make that.
I have offered you some good advice...so whatever you do...don;t say that nobody warned you.

There is the problem right there... I never once said I was trying to make a ton of money from this. You may want to recheck your numbers again. If you only knew...

Anywho. Everyone who has sent me pm's I've replied.
 
I really think David was actually looking out for your best intrests on this venture. I'm not trying to be negative but every point David made was completely right even the one about the other vendors.

What David said was all great until he had to cop an attitude about my "business plan" which he has no clue what is. This thread was created to allow for those interested to purchase, not for people to start talking their usual crap. I don't have time for it, nor do I care. People have to make mistakes to learn from them. If something goes wrong, I'll learn from it and change it. Until then I am going to continue to do what I have decided to do.
 
how big are the teacups when they arrive to you.
 
sbrodacz;3685446; said:
What David said was all great until he had to cop an attitude about my "business plan" which he has no clue what is. This thread was created to allow for those interested to purchase, not for people to start talking their usual crap. I don't have time for it, nor do I care. People have to make mistakes to learn from them. If something goes wrong, I'll learn from it and change it. Until then I am going to continue to do what I have decided to do.
You don't have to make mistakes to learn but for some reason it's human nature to do it that way. Good luck with your venture. :)
 
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