are we really rare??? if so then

[hamato_yoshii]

Ok what the hay.
If god created us who created god?or where did god come from?
People used to live 100's of years.what happened?
dinosaurs/caveman were before Christ?No?

Flame on

1. If you are willing to accept God existing, then I dont think that you would need to know where He came from. I mean He's God right? The essence of God is that He is, and was, and always will be.
2. God limited humans lifespan.
3. I guess the answer to this is yes, although I dont really understand the question. The Bible doesnt say that Christ was the first person on earth so, sure dinosaurs and cavemen were around before Christ. But cavemen still exist today. It depends on what you mean by "caveman" though, as this is kind of a vague term. On the other hand Christ did exist before dinosaurs/cavemen because the Bible says that Christ is God, and that He was present during the Creation of the world, so, technically He was around before them, but in regards to the earth (which is where I think your question was going) then you are right.

 

[Bsixxx]

The general christian belief is that the world is only 6000 years old and that carbon dating is false. Some to choose to believe in evolution also as evolution is lgoical but they cant denouce their religion, to me this is a cop-out. Man walked with the dinosaur, this was not in the bible (might be now?, they add **** as they go). god is a powerful being that has always been but one random day decieded to create man, crist came around 2000 years ago to save mans soul and allow them into heaven so yes dinosaurs were before christ (the religion doesn't start with christ). People living 100's of years I have never heard of, so I will say "god did it".

jesus was born a Jew, doesn't that make the Jewish religion the true/original relgion and make jesus at desserter?

Ehh, religion is all the same no matter what you believe...every religion claims to be the only right one, but they all preach the same old nonsense. And what’s the point of God? He does nothing for this earth, but let it destroy itself...is that the point of life to be destroyed and then replaced some how?
doesn’t make sense at all to me (flame on) I don’t care, just don’t see the point in religion, no one in this world is a saint, and just because you pray to a non existent being or essence doesn’t make your sins forgivable...does it?

 

[drgnfly829]

and not religion or spirituality
well right now for both questions people are kinda sticking to their beliefs and not science
hmm
ok look at conditions where life exists on earth (very hostile) the stuff life has survived (comets etc, )
and then look at conditions on other planets right in the solar system
there still are thoughts that there might be some forms of life on mars

just because we cannot reliably detect it doesn't mean it's not there
and that goes for both questions so ha

 

[hamato_yoshii]

How you read the bible and what information you get from it is NOT right and everyone else is wrong. The bible is read as a point of view text, meaning any number of people can read a single line of text and come to a logical point of view and NOT be wrong. Your brother explaining the bible is only his inturpretation of it and is not the only inturpretation that is possible. Who are you to say you know what is right or wrong in the bible. Also just the fact that you reffer to the old testimate but use the term christian is laughable as the term christian was not known to be used until the new testimate was written. And an eye for and eye doesn't always work, the old testimate is not relivent in todays society (nor is the new imo)



This is a ligitamate theroy and is being explored by scientists screwy, just as legitamet as religion is. Its all about point of view which is influcened by your culture.

It's interesting how you are saying who is he to say what is right about the Bible, and that what he says about is false, yet you have no problem telling him exactly what you think he should think. I mean you even capitalized your "NOTS" to make your point even stronger. So, basically you are making the case that he is in no posistion to know what is right, but you are? It's kind of like you punching a someone in the face to teach them that violence is wrong.
And to be completely honest (because you were with him) your assesment of the relationship between the Old Testament and the New Testament, and how that relates to Christians today is...well...laughable.

 

[hamato_yoshii]

and not religion or spirituality
well right now for both questions people are kinda sticking to their beliefs and not science
hmm
ok look at conditions where life exists on earth (very hostile) the stuff life has survived (comets etc, )
and then look at conditions on other planets right in the solar system
there still are thoughts that there might be some forms of life on mars

just because we cannot reliably detect it doesn't mean it's not there
and that goes for both questions so ha

I agree. However I do think its interesting how the "life on other planets" threads always lead to the God debate. Coincidence?
By the way my beliefs are not in opposistion to science at all. This is a common myth. In fact science serves as an added compliment and evidence for my beliefs. The idea that you have to pick either science or religion is wrong. As there are many Cration Scientists, and there are many people who dont believe in a certain God, yet are very "spiritual".

 

[mike dunagan]

Not going to put my own personal beliefs out there, but for what I have read and listened to over the last few years... this is from an atheist philosopher...

Evolution works, but the basis for evolution is the cell... the cell has tons of stored knowledge to recreate itself and run...all the moving parts.... the problem is that evolution takes into account that the cell just exisit. There is no explanation for the cell... it was there with all information it needed to recreate itself and run, and grow...

not even science has a reason...

His idea (atheist philosopher) not mine...

some believe God put things in motion, others of the atheist following have yet to give an idea...

ponder this information

do not give me crap for this... thought I would share a theory I heard over the last few months that I myself had wondered....

 

[me_wee_todded]

hmm.A few of you have given stories about attempted suicide, and some emotion just before the fulfillment of our thoughts. this emotion stopped you.
I too have somewhat similar experiences.
i had the barrel in my mouth, i pulled the trigger and nothing happened. the bullet was a dud.
another time i took 9 aspirin. and 4 benadril so i would fall asleep. i woke up the next morning with heart burn.
i cant say why im so lucky. it just doesnt make sense. i really shouldnt be alive.

ill be honest with you all. i believe there is a God. and i believe that this being doesnt give a crap about anyone or anything on this piece of rock floating around an average star, in one corner of this average galaxy.
so whatever...

 

[Liam]

i had the barrel in my mouth, i pulled the trigger and nothing happened. the bullet was a dud.
another time i took 9 aspirin. and 4 benadril so i would fall asleep. i woke up the next morning with heart burn.

And what caused you to do this madness!?

 

[Caveman]

Im so simple I never questions like is there A God? or How did we get here? Frankly, I dont give a damn and dont really have the mental capacity for such talk but, then again I am Native American and the whole christian God thing has only been aware to my family for the last 65 or so years and that was when my grandma and all the othere little "savages" where rounded up and sent off to christian and mormon boarding schools so my family has never grasped at what we were originally force feed.

 

[hamato_yoshii]

Not going to put my own personal beliefs out there, but for what I have read and listened to over the last few years... this is from an atheist philosopher...

Evolution works, but the basis for evolution is the cell... the cell has tons of stored knowledge to recreate itself and run...all the moving parts.... the problem is that evolution takes into account that the cell just exisit. There is no explanation for the cell... it was there with all information it needed to recreate itself and run, and grow...

not even science has a reason...

His idea (atheist philosopher) not mine...

some believe God put things in motion, others of the atheist following have yet to give an idea...

ponder this information

do not give me crap for this... thought I would share a theory I heard over the last few months that I myself had wondered....

This is a gret thought. I have also heard this, not from an atheist philosopher though, I have just heard/read about it in science articles. It basically states that going by what we originally knew about cells (not too much) the theory of (macro)evolution sounded pretty plausible, and thats why it has gained so much steam over time. The problem is, is that new discoveries have been made about the complexities of cells, and it creates a major problem for the beginning stages of evolution (as mike said above). My issue is that some of those who believe in evolution don't address this issue (among others) and instead use diversion to trick people into believing the stuff they tell them to.