BAN ON REPTILES?

[krzr3000]

if it is true, i got to get my male aussie water dragon at the reptile super show lol this will also hurt the economy more, for the guys who only breed reptiles for a living and thats all they know, it will effect alot more then what you think,

You live in LA...this ban is for british columbia

 

[coura]

Hmm....while i agree its bad for us but not necessarily the animals. I bet for every properly cared for aquatic turtle more is being sold at a flea market or china town to die in a bowl for a few months.

Oh please In that case the problem aint the animals but the people that sell them. Stop the flea markets and stick only to responsable dealers! what about the thousands of animals that belong to responsable pet owners, breeders and hobbists? And its bad for the animals because as there is no way that new people can get them legaly, all business would be taken underground, less captive breeding will happen and more importantly as new generacions of people wont have the chance to contact personaly with them, they will be less educated and old fears and supersticions will reemerge more powerfull then ever. Its obvious that if a person has a pet snake he wont or at least try not run one wild one with a car. A normal everyday person will gladly destroy every snake that crosses her way. This animals are embassors of their kind. And letting alone species conservacion wich this hobby has done quite a few times

 

[Militis]

Thats ok its USA getting a hit for change not Australia naw but that is or will be bad for all you guys out there.

Over here in Australia we have to get a licence so i think that would be better idea then just doing a big ban thing .

 

[Tom500]

Thats ok its USA getting a hit for change not Australia naw but that is or will be bad for all you guys out there.

Over here in Australia we have to get a licence so i think that would be better idea then just doing a big ban thing .

I agree no total ban but maybe a licence to keep them.

 

[krzr3000]

Oh please In that case the problem aint the animals but the people that sell them. Stop the flea markets and stick only to responsable dealers! what about the thousands of animals that belong to responsable pet owners, breeders and hobbists? And its bad for the animals because as there is no way that new people can get them legaly, all business would be taken underground, less captive breeding will happen and more importantly as new generacions of people wont have the chance to contact personaly with them, they will be less educated and old fears and supersticions will reemerge more powerfull then ever. Its obvious that if a person has a pet snake he wont or at least try not run one wild one with a car. A normal everyday person will gladly destroy every snake that crosses her way. This animals are embassors of their kind. And letting alone species conservacion wich this hobby has done quite a few times

And those who buy them...its hard to argue that people aren't the problem, no? Obviously an exotic herp isn't going to survive in canada...the problem arises when a human sells it to someone irresponsible and then that irresponsible person releases it or does something else stupid to make the headlines.

Furthermore thats why we need to make herps not as easy to obtain, people are the problem not the animals...they live fine in the wild. It shouldn;t be as easy as strolling down to petco. The dealers are a big part of the problem...even at herp expos i see some very questionable sales, i could be wrong but when a kid comes up saying "what can i get thats cool for $20?" i would raise an eyebrow.

 

[coura]

And those who buy them...its hard to argue that people aren't the problem, no? Obviously an exotic herp isn't going to survive in canada...the problem arises when a human sells it to someone irresponsible and then that irresponsible person releases it or does something else stupid to make the headlines.

Furthermore thats why we need to make herps not as easy to obtain, people are the problem not the animals...they live fine in the wild. It shouldn;t be as easy as strolling down to petco. The dealers are a big part of the problem...even at herp expos i see some very questionable sales, i could be wrong but when a kid comes up saying "what can i get thats cool for $20?" i would raise an eyebrow.

We are in the same page here(how ever for some there is not such thing of a good wild habitat in the near future, like many asian turts that were near extincion and dedicated hobbists rescued them just in time and now lots of people can enjoy them and perhaps bring them back into the wild some day) I think a permit and even inspections should be used for anyone interested in the larger dangerous reptiles(wich aparently already exists) and then for the rest(as well as all the other pets) they should be only be obtainable if the owner had some kind of "pet care" degree. That would greatly decrease animal abuse and inpulse buys

 

[Charles d]

thats bull @#@#

 

[Louie]

I highly doubt this will happen in the lower 48, they have applied good measures by requiring permits for large constrictors in most states already, but thats not an all out ban. I agree with it and think it should be applied, this will help in the amount that are murdered every year by ignorant people. Now only QUALIFIED people can own larger constrictors and nile monitors in Fl. I hope this is the quo for the rest of the country.

Did you know that in Coral gables they have banned snakes and large monitors think all reptiles period.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/31/us/31coral.html

 

[varanio]

And those who buy them...its hard to argue that people aren't the problem, no? Obviously an exotic herp isn't going to survive in canada...the problem arises when a human sells it to someone irresponsible and then that irresponsible person releases it or does something else stupid to make the headlines.

Furthermore thats why we need to make herps not as easy to obtain, people are the problem not the animals...they live fine in the wild. It shouldn;t be as easy as strolling down to petco. The dealers are a big part of the problem...even at herp expos i see some very questionable sales, i could be wrong but when a kid comes up saying "what can i get thats cool for $20?" i would raise an eyebrow.

I agree, but at the same time the largest population of feral animals across the globe is the cat. I think the reason reptiles get a bad name is because the media loves to sensationalize whenever a bad event does occur. However they tend to ignore the boom in feral cat populations and how detrimental they are to local wildlife.

I think a similar permitting procedure should be done for larger reptiles as its done in other countries. It teaches the owners responsibilty, it slows down the mass importation of these animals and it for sure defaults the owners economical responsibilities to the animals to a select few. Not everyone will be financially equipped to handle large snakes and lizards, and the licensing process will definatley deter all the dummies who impulse buy on a whim, this is why I got rid of my larger animals. I cant compete with the prices offered on wc imports, my cb specimens were offered for more than what market price was due to them being cb and parasite free, but I still had a hard time selling them.

Which is why Ive gone to dwarf monitors and tree monitors, only dedicated and knowledgeable people will purchase these animals. I sleep better at night knowing, that a 12 yr old kid who has no experience is not buying any of my animals.

 

[LeahisAwesome]

Hmm....while i agree its bad for us but not necessarily the animals. I bet for every properly cared for aquatic turtle more is being sold at a flea market or china town to die in a bowl for a few months.

My thoughts....make it a permit only basis. Weed out those who will ultimately be irresponsible.

I AGREE!
To many people buy reptiles and fish and do no research.
I feel bad every time i see someone buy a pacu for this reason.
Or an albino burm cuz its pretty.
I think permits would be a good idea...but banning...No.