@ petspoiler, Let's not ignore that very last sentence of his very first post. People use other fish to displace aggression all of the time. In fact, The vast majority of keepers here employ this practice. I'm not speaking about the motives of those who don't agree with this, Just the method in which it is being addressed is uncalled for.
Battle scars from the night
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Not sure if you were referring to me or not petspoiler, I don't quite know what more to suggest? Aggressive fish are aggressive. Either they will kill the Oscar or they won't... remove him or not, OP's choice on that. Maybe a school of silver dollars would take the focus off for a while. Lots of techniques and tricks to breed fish out there...
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He isnt the only oscar in the pond he just got the worst of it that night. I cant control that and im certainly not going to separate fish besides i have nothing to separate it into, nature takes its course, so what. Dithers are there for a reason. I probably dont know any breeders that dont employ this practice breeding aggressive fish.
You can agree with it or not i dont care. You dont have to read my posts and certainly dont need to chime your 2 cents in. I didnt change my tune, I will always sacrifice a cheap fish to spread aggression, its a good thing(its not like its the only dither) that would be mean. Why invest in expensive aggressive breeding pairs of fish if youre just going to let them kill the other?(classic catch 22) There is, and always will be, some part of something someone does that other people dont agree with, thats life.
I admit the last sentence of my first post ("Sadly i think this red oscar will be killed over the next few days but i dont know for sure.") may have been a little dramatic but i dont see anything wrong with making that observation.
You can agree with it or not i dont care. You dont have to read my posts and certainly dont need to chime your 2 cents in. I didnt change my tune, I will always sacrifice a cheap fish to spread aggression, its a good thing(its not like its the only dither) that would be mean. Why invest in expensive aggressive breeding pairs of fish if youre just going to let them kill the other?(classic catch 22) There is, and always will be, some part of something someone does that other people dont agree with, thats life.
I admit the last sentence of my first post ("Sadly i think this red oscar will be killed over the next few days but i dont know for sure.") may have been a little dramatic but i dont see anything wrong with making that observation.
jutch & paw, BS is BS. jutch is changing his tune, to sound different from his first 2 posts. Simple comparisons:
I am impressed by this post too, its so long but if i felt like reading i am sure i would agree with everything you said.
^Paw, the very last sentence of his very first post^
I honestly don't understand what your point is to me, about that sentence.
...that the op says "sadly"? that he "thinks" the O will be killed over the next few days= it's not 100% sure?
or, you're just tying it in to the next statement you make?
I've understood "using other fish to displace aggression" as: many dithers and different species and/or heavy stocking which makes tanks busy with high numbers of active distractions. Those "target" fish provide enough confusion to aggressors, that no particular fish gets fully targeted. It's DISPERSING aggression, over a broad populace. Lots of fish, little impact on individuals. "Target fish" are fast and/or many.
That's NOT the same as keeping a same sex/same species in breeding tank for the sole purpose of being relentlessly attacked.
There's no escape. no dispersion.
Reasoning follows that the killed individuals must keep being replaced ad infinitum during the entire spawning event.
If this method is commonly used by breeders, I want to know.
I was surfing the web for fish, multi-tasking btwn that & MFK when I read this post.
What "method" of addressing something is acceptable, when someone wants no alternative methods, and posts this on an educational forum?
He said he deliberately provokes reactionary replies. It seems more like he posted the truth originally, and then back-peddles to look better. and condescendingly, at that.
Ya, Got emotional! I didn't say half what I was thinking, and still won't.
You know why? I'm worried that when I shop for certain fish, this may be how they're produced.
An educational forum, and no alternative suggestions?
This pond has lots of fish, its not just one "target" fish as you like to think, you obviously are ignorant if you didnt read the post with all the stock thats in it. And its 1018 gallons which is more than enough room for this to not happen, also if you read more posts you would also understand that i said i didnt know which fish is doing the damage, another point of your ignorance, you choose to forget 3/4 of what was said which is again, you being ignorant. Its like the one guys signature, "you cant argue with stupid" and you are being stupid(aka ignorant). I mean i know ignorance is bliss but come on now son go back to school and learn to not be ignorant.
My bahias werent put in the pool to spawn it just happened. My statement of him lifting the red oscar out of the water "...being an impressive display" that is impressive. I dont know why you would think otherwise. That doesnt mean he is the one doing the damage to all the damaged fish. I have a 13" azul thats just as torn up. He has plenty of room in 1000+ gallons and is only guarding his spawn site, I cant stop other fish from swimming to that spot.
Oh and i backpeddled a little but not to change anyones opinion just to elaborate. Everyone seemed to be of the opinion that it was the only fish and i threw it to the "wolves" which is certainly not the case.
This is the pair circling their first spawn
everything in the first post was true and there is nothing bad about the first post except you dont like the last statement which was merely an opinion(an opinion which i am entitled too i might add) maybe it was more of an observation
everything in the first post was true and there is nothing bad about the first post except you dont like the last statement which was merely an opinion(an opinion which i am entitled too i might add) maybe it was more of an observation
These are the pics i got from Jeff Rapps before i purchased them. They are an F1 pair.
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