bluegill

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lol sorry i didnt mean slider. thats not an hybird even the article says its not.

here it is.
Ted Will, a senior fisheries biologist with the Ga Dept of Natural Resources, gave a presentation to the Dublin Rotary Club last Frdiay about stocking small ponds. Here's information he relayed about fish species, along with some links and other info I looked up on the web.

Most people manage a pond for Bluegill and Largemouth Bass, so with that in mind, here are other species that interact well and poorly with those primary two.

(1) Shellcracker, common name for the redear sunfish. Here's a picture of a recent record shellcracker, weighing in at over 5 lb, caught by a man from Homerville, Georgia:
shellcracker.jpg


Here's a link to the article that describes the catch.

Shellcracker live a little deeper in a pond than bluegill, and don't spawn as often, once sometimes twice a year. Bass don't eat them, and they do consume some of the available energy of a pond, so they are, at most a slight negative to the bluegill/bass fishing, but, on the positive side, they do add fishing variety to a pond.

found here : http://avidangler.blogspot.com/2005/05/good-fish-species-for-pond-stocking.html


lol anyways whatever. my point was a bluegill gets too big for a 30 gallon tank. :p
 
I have caught bluegill in my pond 9+ inches quite often. I wouldn't put that in a 30 gallon not because it would hurt the fishes feelings, because animals don't have feelings, emotions, or souls. I wouldn't put in it that because t isn't going to grow right, it isn't going to act right, and it is going to be fun to watch it jus sit there with no swim room. And don't green sunfish get more than 6-8 inches as someone earlier said?
 
Wow, this fighting is just stupid. Seriously I don't even understand why you guys are discussing growth being stunted in a confined tank. It just isn't feasible, if water quality is met and a steady, healthy diet is being fed then there should be NO reason for any fish to not meet it's wild maximum size. This is especially true if you consider the sedentary life of being in an aquarium and not having to fight for food or worry about predators.

Now, onto the true question that was originally asked. A 50 gallon may get you by for a while but if they get big enough, then you will want to move up to something that may give them a bit more footprint. It also depends on how many fish you are keeping.
 
blue gills get big they can take a year or two before they grow out. if you want to be sadistic and watch them suffer put them in a 10 gallon tank, if you want to watch them grow and be strong 1000+ gallon pond.
 
Northern Pike;4511748; said:
ITS ok though that fish are being fed fish, its ok that at bass tournaments a bass is ripped at of the water going 50mph because of 80ib test, its ok that deer get hunted out of season, its ok though that a illegal sized fish is being bashed on the rocks, Is it ok that a bluegill has no danger of predators in a tank? is it ok that fish don't give a **** about anything accept food? THe reason we keep fish is because we like to watch them and observe them , not because we feel bad for it:screwy:

#1 Fish eat fish, so its perfectly natural to feed one fish another.
#2 I'm pretty sure that they dont get ripped out of the water going that fast...and if you knew anything about bass fishing, you would know that there are very few situations, even in a tournament, where one would use 80# test.
#3 It's NOT ok that deer get hunted out of season, no one ever said it was except you...
#4 It's NOT ok that any fish is bashed on the rocks, where the #$!! are you coming up with this stuff?
#5 Yes, it is ok that a bluegill has no predators in a tank. I gotta agree with you on that one...
#6 Actually a fish, or any creatures major concern is passing on its genes. Yes, that does mean they like to eat.
#7 The reason we keep fish is because we like them, but apparently not everyone cares about them....

None of this has anything to do with any of this post, you really expect people to take your advice? You don't even know what your talking about...

Northern Pike;4511772; said:
also before anyone says anything else think about it, would you like to be bashed on rocks and maybe die or maybe suffer or would you like to get in a safe little home with free food and safety?...

Lol those are a fishes only options?

kingkarter;4511845; said:
mods plz lock this thread its just makeing every one fight in sted of help

kingkarter;4512498; said:
MODS PLZ LOCK THIS THREAD It'S JUST MAKEING PPL FIGHT

The mods seem like they could care less about the native forum, its pretty annoying.
 
Couple things.

#1. The huge fish is in no way, shape or form, a red eared sunfish. The opercular flap would be...RED...if it were.

#2. We arent fighting...or at least Im not, just trying to bring out a common consenses on fish size and tank size.

I think they dont really need a big of a tank as everyone says, but if you plan on keeping it with conspecifics then it better be huge.
 
the red there just hard to see in that pic. it is a redear sunfish (shellcracker) that guy and fish did break the world record for largest redear caught. :)

shellcracker, redear sunfishes are one of the least colorful but most sought after sunfishes. The back on this species is light green to brown with scattered darker spots. The light gray to silver sides have 34 to 43 lateral line scales. Lower surfaces of the head and venter are light yellow to white. Sides of the head are mottled with brown to dark orange spots. The dorsal fin is light gray with nine to 11 spines and 10 to 12 rays. The light yellow to white anal fin has three spines and 12 to 14 rays. The pectoral fin has 13 or 14 rays and it is long and pointed, its end reaching past the nostril when bent forward. The common name of this species is derived from the characteristic red or orange spot at the rear of the opercular flap.
 
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