ceramic rings

[JAFRIAS]

From what I read, bio media manufacturers do not really suggest how much bio media you should use per gallon. Instead they just boast about how much surface area per cubic inch their stuff has. From there retail clerks push products. Then people like you fail to gain a truthful understanding and pick up where the retail clerk left off… spreading misinformation…


The simple reality is… when you are starting with 10 times more than you’ll use.… I see no reason to pay money to give yourself 50 times more than you’ll use…


But if it makes you feel better to use it… then feel free spending your money to make yourself feel better. Just don’t lie to others and tell them they “need” to spend their money to make you feel better…

so more media might be of use in a over stocked tank

 

[Bderick67]

Do you have any examples of a tank that does need bio media?

I have never kept overstocked bare bottomed tanks... which is why in conversations such as this that is the situation where I accept bio media may be needed... because I cannot speak on the situation from experience...

 

[yogurt_21]

so more media might be of use in a over stocked tank

lol which is the inherent issue I have with the constant preaching of bio media. "it's necessary if you overstock your tank" err..... slow that train down and lets have a look at it's cargo.

I mean seriously stating that not enough bio media is unhealthy by using an unhealthy setup as a baseline is not a valid argument. "if you had 15 pbass in a 100g, you'd need that biomedia" <--------see the issue there with the argument? If you have to promote the most unhealthy thing done by aquarists to get your point accross your argument is a failure.

I've got a novel idea don't overstock your tank, plan filtration to fit your stock and stop paying manufacturers for things you can get for free. mrunlucky has a great pond built on the side of his house and his filter media was gathered very cheaply and is as effective or more effective than expensive ceramic rings. biomedia is all about surface area, not whether or not fluval makes it. I swear sometimes I think half the forum has a shrine built to that company in their house. for me I provide filter media that strains out crap and provides surface area for my setups. I haven't had an ammo spike in years on any of the setups including any new ones. why? tank sponsorship and lack of hyped up equipment is what I attribute. you be your own judge.

 

[Toby_H]

so more media might be of use in a over stocked tank

In a tank that has substrate, decor, ample water movement... stocked with Cichlids in a way that it does not look like a holding tank in a super market... and no I don't think with sensible overstocking you will reach a point where you "need" bio media...


Yet, I would imagine it is possible to create a situation where it is likely that the tank is so darn overstocked... and so devoid of substrate/decor... that bio media may be necessary...

Do you have any examples of a tank that does need bio media?

And you are right, I have never kept overstocked bare bottomed tanks... which is why in conversations such as this that is the situation where I accept bio media may be needed... because I cannot speak on the situation from experience...

lol, Dude can you read?

 

[xaznkewlguyx]

I bet OP is too lazy to read all of this.

 

[Bderick67]

Do you have any examples of a tank that does need bio media?

I have never kept overstocked bare bottomed tanks...

reposted to clarify your apparent confusion

 

[llllllll]

Hey llllllll,

I have a few questions. What kind of filter do you have? How big is the tank? And how many fish and what kind are in it?

I see you said you bought 15 pounds of ceramic rings, I'm going to take somewhat of a safe guess here and say you probably have enough. Also to answer your original question, it probably won't make a noticeable difference as far as the big ceramic rings or the small ceramic rings. Whichever choice you went with should be fine.

Also the guy who told you sintered glass or matrix glass is better, chances are even if that were true its not so much better that it would make any kind of real difference. Stick with what you already bought.

i have a 300 gallon sump and i am planning to use it for 60 gallon DIY filter..i am plannin to have filter pad then bioballs then ceramic rings...

 

[brianhellno]

i have a 300 gallon sump and i am planning to use it for 60 gallon DIY filter..i am plannin to have filter pad then bioballs then ceramic rings...

Dang man you have a 300 gallon sump? How big is the main fish tank and what kind of fish do you have? That sounds impressive. Would you be willing to put up some pics?

 

[bgcoop8784]

Not even wanting to get in the huge debate, but on my tanks, i use ceramic rings in fully submerged areas, and scrubbies for anything thats trickle/wet/dry. always worked great for me, even in Bare Bottom tanks, where no matter how you put it, extra bio-media is needed.

 

[jlnguyen74]

Dang man you have a 300 gallon sump? How big is the main fish tank and what kind of fish do you have? That sounds impressive. Would you be willing to put up some pics?

Nah! I'm sure he meant 300-gal tank and a DIY 60-gal wet/dry filter