Deputy shoots dog twice

[jcardona1]

(rolls eyes)

It is real easy to be an arm chair quarterback.....

None of you were there. None of you witnessed the dogs behavior. You are all relying on the media coverage and the statements of an angry biased owner....

Anything the owners says is also hearsay as she did not see the dog approach the officers either.

From a legal stand point the officers had every right to enter the yard in search of a suspect/victim of a crime.

I'd like to see any of you walk a mile in an officer's shoes. Dealing with the disrespect (as is obvious by this thread), abuse, and horrors that they see/deal with every day....I think you would all end up with a very different perspective.

Give me a break....

Are you serious? I'm all for supporting law enforcement, but these guys cross the line, A LOT. Where do you draw the line? So police can pretty much shoot any dog on anybody's property, any time? Because that's what you're making it seem like. What are civilians supposed to do? Not keep pets because some idiot cop may shoot it if he enters your property while chasing a bad guy?

If you run into a backyard that has a large dag, what do you think he's gonna do? Doesn't give you the right to shoot the animal, cop or not.

 

[Bderick67]

Sorry but not going to side with the bleeding hearts on this one. If I was the officer I would have done the same. Not going to risk mine or my family's well being on a mutt that is threatening me.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

(rolls eyes)

It is real easy to be an arm chair quarterback.....

None of you were there. None of you witnessed the dogs behavior. You are all relying on the media coverage and the statements of an angry biased owner....

Anything the owners says is also hearsay as she did not see the dog approach the officers either.

From a legal stand point the officers had every right to enter the yard in search of a suspect/victim of a crime.

I'd like to see any of you walk a mile in an officer's shoes. Dealing with the disrespect (as is obvious by this thread), abuse, and horrors that they see/deal with every day....I think you would all end up with a very different perspective.

Give me a break....

Aren't officers trained for this sort of thing, but with people? Like, give warnings, identify yourself, don't shoot unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? Now, I know identifying yourself won't work with a dog, but unless a dog is charging you and showing no signs of stopping... and even then, you can use your tazer, it works just as well. Or hit it with that big stick they carry around with them, something. After all, you can't expect a dog to differentiate between civilians trespassing on their property, or police officers doing so.

The neighbors DID warn the cops there was a dog in there... now, this may be a wild thought, but maybe, JUST MAYBE, it would have barked if someone else had entered the yard? If the dog was silent, chances were nobody had hopped the fence to hide in that particular back yard.\

At least this dog survived the ordeal. Most die in these kinds of encounters. But sure, let's not say anything because they're cops and accidents happen.

 

[Bderick67]

(rolls eyes)

It is real easy to be an arm chair quarterback.....

None of you were there. None of you witnessed the dogs behavior. You are all relying on the media coverage and the statements of an angry biased owner....

Anything the owners says is also hearsay as she did not see the dog approach the officers either.

From a legal stand point the officers had every right to enter the yard in search of a suspect/victim of a crime.

I'd like to see any of you walk a mile in an officer's shoes. Dealing with the disrespect (as is obvious by this thread), abuse, and horrors that they see/deal with every day....I think you would all end up with a very different perspective.

Give me a break....

Excellent post

 

[08trdoffroad]

Are you serious? I'm all for supporting law enforcement, but these guys cross the line, A LOT. Where do you draw the line? So police can pretty much shoot any dog on anybody's property, any time? Because that's what you're making it seem like. What are civilians supposed to do? Not keep pets because some idiot cop may shoot it if he enters your property while chasing a bad guy?

If you run into a backyard that has a large dag, what do you think he's gonna do? Doesn't give you the right to shoot the animal, cop or not.

That is not what I am saying. I am simply saying you are all so quick to condemn the officer and his actions when NONE of you were there and without equal coverage of both sides of the story.

The media loves crap like this....they will sway things whatever way they feel like, and negative publicity when it comes to law enforcment sells papers and creates tv ratings.

 

[08trdoffroad]

Aren't officers trained for this sort of thing, but with people? Like, give warnings, identify yourself, don't shoot unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? Now, I know identifying yourself won't work with a dog, but unless a dog is charging you and showing no signs of stopping... and even then, you can use your tazer, it works just as well. Or hit it with that big stick they carry around with them, something. After all, you can't expect a dog to differentiate between civilians trespassing on their property, or police officers doing so.

The neighbors DID warn the cops there was a dog in there... now, this may be a wild thought, but maybe, JUST MAYBE, it would have barked if someone else had entered the yard? If the dog was silent, chances were nobody had hopped the fence to hide in that particular back yard.\

At least this dog survived the ordeal. Most die in these kinds of encounters. But sure, let's not say anything because they're cops and accidents happen.

Have you ever fired a taser???? Have you ever even handled one? Are you aware they fire two probes, one at a downward angle, the chances of hitting a moving person, let alone something as small as a dog is minimal at best. Since law enforcement began using the taser, the general public believes there is no reason to shoot anyone or anything, that a taser is just a cure all. Well, I am here to tell you it IS NOT. There are still situations where the taser is not an effective option.

 

[jcardona1]

That is not what I am saying. I am simply saying you are all so quick to condemn the officer and his actions when NONE of you were there and without equal coverage of both sides of the story.

The media loves crap like this....they will sway things whatever way they feel like, and negative publicity when it comes to law enforcment sells papers and creates tv ratings.

You're right, nobody was there. The dog could have been aggressive towards him. But he KNEW there was a dog in there. Why not take precautionary measures, rather than barge in knowing that he was most likely going to end up having to shoot the dog. There are plenty videos out there that show cops shooting animals w/o reason.

My buddy does high risk Probation, and he's told me that they've shot dogs on several occassions during home raids. Most of the time the dog wasn't even attacking, it was just doing what any dog would do. That isn't right IMO

 

[Bderick67]

Aren't officers trained for this sort of thing, but with people? Like, give warnings, identify yourself, don't shoot unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? Now, I know identifying yourself won't work with a dog, but unless a dog is charging you and showing no signs of stopping... and even then, you can use your tazer, it works just as well. Or hit it with that big stick they carry around with them, something. After all, you can't expect a dog to differentiate between civilians trespassing on their property, or police officers doing so.

The neighbors DID warn the cops there was a dog in there... now, this may be a wild thought, but maybe, JUST MAYBE, it would have barked if someone else had entered the yard? If the dog was silent, chances were nobody had hopped the fence to hide in that particular back yard.\

At least this dog survived the ordeal. Most die in these kinds of encounters. But sure, let's not say anything because they're cops and accidents happen.

The dog did charge, the officer hit first then shot it. Obviously this was a vicious dog and the neighbors new it, otherwise what would be the purpose for the warning.

Bad situation, but the circumstance dictated that the officer had to go into that yard.

 

[scriving]

man that is sad man if i cop shot my dog in my house there would be some serious problems

 

[08trdoffroad]

Excellent post

Thanks! At least one person understands where I am coming from!

You're right, nobody was there. The dog could have been aggressive towards him. But he KNEW there was a dog in there. Why not take precautionary measures, rather than barge in knowing that he was most likely going to end up having to shoot the dog. There are plenty videos out there that show cops shooting animals w/o reason.

My buddy does high risk Probation, and he's told me that they've shot dogs on several occassions during home raids. Most of the time the dog wasn't even attacking, it was just doing what any dog would do. That isn't right IMO

So your saying that if an officer knew there was a dog back there then he should have waited to enter. I can see the next headline now...."Officer waits to enter yard due to dog, only to allow a woman to be stabbed to death." ...or you wife has just been beaten and raped infront of you, they guy runs through your neighbors yard (who has a dog) with officers in toe. They stop at the gate and you yell and scream at them to keep chasing the man...and they reply, "I am sorry sir, I know there is a dog back there, now I don't want to have to shoot it, so I am going to have to wait for my animal control officer to get here to restrain the dog before I can proceed...I have to take precausionary measures ya know...."

Waiting or taking precausionary measures is not always possible

Here is a video for you to "chew" on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGUyMFPJRnU

He wasn't justified at all was he???? That dog is just lucky the other officer was able to make a dang good shot with the taser.

The dog did charge, the officer hit first then shot it. Obviously this was a vicious dog and the neighbors new it, otherwise what would be the purpose for the warning.

Bad situation, but the circumstance dictated that the officer had to go into that yard.

Exactly!!