Deputy shoots dog twice

[sidneymysnake]

So you are saying that they should have just let the suspect go just because there was a dog in the yard? Or a victim that is potentially injured and requiring assistance, but is hiding because they are afraid for their life, go unaided....

Just remember that if you ever need police assistance that would require them to go into someone elses yard..."There is no reason for the officer to be in that yard".....

From my understanding they were looking for a runaway teen girl. I'm pretty sure if she woulda ran into the yard you would have heard the dog barking or something of that nature.

Also, there was no reason for them to be in someone's backyard without permission, especially when the neighbor told them a dog was in the backyard. I wouldn't mind so much if this wasn't the 2nd time that a dog has been shot in the county within the past 6 months. I think they are getting a bit trigger happy.

If Harley was as aggressive as you are saying then he would have chewed the vets arm off while they were examining him, he didn't even require a muzzle.

 

[08trdoffroad]

From my understanding they were looking for a runaway teen girl. I'm pretty sure if she woulda ran into the yard you would have heard the dog barking or something of that nature.

Also, there was no reason for them to be in someone's backyard without permission, especially when the neighbor told them a dog was in the backyard. I wouldn't mind so much if this wasn't the 2nd time that a dog has been shot in the county within the past 6 months. I think they are getting a bit trigger happy.

If Harley was as aggressive as you are saying then he would have chewed the vets arm off while they were examining him, he didn't even require a muzzle.

IIRC, They responded to a domestic violence call, and were either looking for the female suspect or a female victim, but the story isn't real clear as to which. If you are all for letting someone go that likes to smack women around, or an abused women not get justice over a dog then by all means they should have stopped at the fence......

The police had every legal right to be in the yard, with or without permission. They were attempting to either apprehend a suspect, or locate a victim of a violent crime. Both are legal justification to be in any yard they had reason to believe that individual might be found in in the area.

I don't know the dog, it may be the most docile creature in the world, but animals react differently if intimidated or startled. Which the officer very well could have done if they went into the yard in any manner other than tip toeing. The dog was in shock by the time it reached the vet....

 

[sidneymysnake]

IIRC, They responded to a domestic violence call, and were either looking for the female suspect or a female victim, but the story isn't real clear as to which. If you are all for letting someone go that likes to smack women around, or an abused women not get justice over a dog then by all means they should have stopped at the fence......

The police had every legal right to be in the yard, with or without permission. They were attempting to either apprehend a suspect, or locate a victim of a violent crime. Both are legal justification to be in any yard they had reason to believe that individual might be found in in the area.

I don't know the dog, it may be the most docile creature in the world, but animals react differently if intimidated or startled. Which the officer very well could have done if they went into the yard in any manner other than tip toeing. The dog was in shock by the time it reached the vet....

A hurt dog is normally going to be scared and in shock. Normally when a dog is hurt they are more apt to biting out of fear. The entire way to the vet he was licking a strangers face. Also, if the dog was so scared of the police/startled then he would have been the same way with a woman running through his yard out of nowhere and would have, if nothing else, barked. I am siding with the dog and owner here. The police reacted much to fast and if the dog was running at them/attacking (which I find funny because the vet has said he was in a sitting position when he was shot) they could have hit him with their batons or fired a warning shot.

 

[fishy12]

Ok, Police are trained to do stuff and if its what there trained then people should get over it. And have better control over there animals are make them less territoral

 

[Bhack91]

Ok first off I understand that we were not there, and I do support law enforcement as much as I can. With that said I will never support a cop shooting a dog, I feel there are plenty of ways to go about such situations with out getting that far. Not to say some times it is not justified, but thats just my personal opinion. As far as this individual incident goes, they were responding to a domestic violence call and were looking for the female victim. They claim the door to this women's backyard was open, even if it was they did not ask permission to go on to someone's property. I know its my right to say no if a police officer comes to my door and asks me even if I forget to close my gate. So with that said the report says the officers were informed there was a dog in the backyard. First thing that is going to be in my mind is to ask what kind of dog it is and its temperment, I don't care what situation it is. Unless I hear screams of death coming from that backyard I would very well like to know what im charging into. So after all this the cops go into the backyard illegally, uprepared, and expect the dog to either be completely submissive or who knows what else. Im sorry but if you have any understanding at all of dog behaviour they protect thier property and thier owners from a yorkie all the way to a german shepherd. So when I walk back there I would expect the worse a big dog that is protecting its home, I would have carried a stick or something to keep the dog a safe distance as I illegally search thier backyard. And in all honesty I doubt the dog did much more then run at them stop and bark if that. If your cop instincts can not distinguish between that and a life threatening situation I do not want you working where I live. Simply put these cops took a risk to find a victim by illegally searching someone's backyard and that risk was one too many for them. They overreacted and shot an innocent dog, where they should not have been, and In my opinion probably concocted a story so they would seem innocent. Included this "open" gate door, which I doubt would be the case as that hardly contains a dog in the backyard. And as far as that video Jcardona showed, if that happened to me as soon as my dog was shot, those cops would wish they shot me instead. I can tell you for a fact I would see red and would not be subdued like that guy. Even though I have a German Shepherd he would not harm someone in my house, he would scare the living bananas(for lack of better word) out of any intruders but thats it. So if you shoot my large dog, in this planed raid on my house I would be furious, you better plan how to contain my dog with his life intact...If you would like yours intact as well.

 

[jcardona1]

Ok, Police are trained to do stuff and if its what there trained then people should get over it. And have better control over there animals are make them less territoral

Congrats, you have posted the stupidest thing in this thread so far. If you're gong to argue in favor of the police officer, at least have something intelligent to say

 

[08trdoffroad]

A hurt dog is normally going to be scared and in shock. Normally when a dog is hurt they are more apt to biting out of fear. The entire way to the vet he was licking a strangers face. Also, if the dog was so scared of the police/startled then he would have been the same way with a woman running through his yard out of nowhere and would have, if nothing else, barked. I am siding with the dog and owner here. The police reacted much to fast and if the dog was running at them/attacking (which I find funny because the vet has said he was in a sitting position when he was shot) they could have hit him with their batons or fired a warning shot.

The officer attempted to thwart the attack by kicking the dog back, what more do you want? I am not even going to get started on the vet saying the dog was sitting when it was shot....there are a number of valid reasons as to why the dog would appear to have been in a sitting position, but was in reality not just in a "sitting position"

Firing a warning shot would violate 99.99% of all police department policies in the country. Not all officers carry a baton (it is old school) more are carrying asps these days. Regardless then the story would have been "the mean cops beat my dog for no reason."

 

[sidneymysnake]

Ok first off I understand that we were not there, and I do support law enforcement as much as I can. With that said I will never support a cop shooting a dog, I feel there are plenty of ways to go about such situations with out getting that far. Not to say some times it is not justified, but thats just my personal opinion. As far as this individual incident goes, they were responding to a domestic violence call and were looking for the female victim. They claim the door to this women's backyard was open, even if it was they did not ask permission to go on to someone's property. I know its my right to say no if a police officer comes to my door and asks me even if I forget to close my gate. So with that said the report says the officers were informed there was a dog in the backyard. First thing that is going to be in my mind is to ask what kind of dog it is and its temperment, I don't care what situation it is. Unless I hear screams of death coming from that backyard I would very well like to know what im charging into. So after all this the cops go into the backyard illegally, uprepared, and expect the dog to either be completely submissive or who knows what else. Im sorry but if you have any understanding at all of dog behaviour they protect thier property and thier owners from a yorkie all the way to a german shepherd. So when I walk back there I would expect the worse a big dog that is protecting its home, I would have carried a stick or something to keep the dog a safe distance as I illegally search thier backyard. And in all honesty I doubt the dog did much more then run at them stop and bark if that. If your cop instincts can not distinguish between that and a life threatening situation I do not want you working where I live. Simply put these cops took a risk to find a victim by illegally searching someone's backyard and that risk was one too many for them. They overreacted and shot an innocent dog, where they should not have been, and In my opinion probably concocted a story so they would seem innocent. Included this "open" gate door, which I doubt would be the case as that hardly contains a dog in the backyard. And as far as that video Jcardona showed, if that happened to me as soon as my dog was shot, those cops would wish they shot me instead. I can tell you for a fact I would see red and would not be subdued like that guy. Even though I have a German Shepherd he would not harm someone in my house, he would scare the living bananas(for lack of better word) out of any intruders but thats it. So if you shoot my large dog, in this planed raid on my house I would be furious, you better plan how to contain my dog with his life intact...If you would like yours intact as well.

Extremely well said I agree completely.

 

[08trdoffroad]

Ok first off I understand that we were not there, and I do support law enforcement as much as I can. With that said I will never support a cop shooting a dog, I feel there are plenty of ways to go about such situations with out getting that far. Not to say some times it is not justified, but thats just my personal opinion. As far as this individual incident goes, they were responding to a domestic violence call and were looking for the female victim. They claim the door to this women's backyard was open, even if it was they did not ask permission to go on to someone's property. I know its my right to say no if a police officer comes to my door and asks me even if I forget to close my gate. So with that said the report says the officers were informed there was a dog in the backyard. First thing that is going to be in my mind is to ask what kind of dog it is and its temperment, I don't care what situation it is. Unless I hear screams of death coming from that backyard I would very well like to know what im charging into. So after all this the cops go into the backyard illegally, uprepared, and expect the dog to either be completely submissive or who knows what else. Im sorry but if you have any understanding at all of dog behaviour they protect thier property and thier owners from a yorkie all the way to a german shepherd. So when I walk back there I would expect the worse a big dog that is protecting its home, I would have carried a stick or something to keep the dog a safe distance as I illegally search thier backyard. And in all honesty I doubt the dog did much more then run at them stop and bark if that. If your cop instincts can not distinguish between that and a life threatening situation I do not want you working where I live. Simply put these cops took a risk to find a victim by illegally searching someone's backyard and that risk was one too many for them. They overreacted and shot an innocent dog, where they should not have been, and In my opinion probably concocted a story so they would seem innocent. Included this "open" gate door, which I doubt would be the case as that hardly contains a dog in the backyard. And as far as that video Jcardona showed, if that happened to me as soon as my dog was shot, those cops would wish they shot me instead. I can tell you for a fact I would see red and would not be subdued like that guy. Even though I have a German Shepherd he would not harm someone in my house, he would scare the living bananas(for lack of better word) out of any intruders but thats it. So if you shoot my large dog, in this planed raid on my house I would be furious, you better plan how to contain my dog with his life intact...If you would like yours intact as well.

How many times do I have to point out that this was not an illegal search of the property regardless of how you try to skew it. The police had every legal right to be in that yard (see previous posts)

My main goal when I go to work every morning is to return to my family safely that night, in one piece...if that means I end up shooting a dog while carrying out my duties, so be it. If I allowed a person to get away or a victim go unaided just because an "innnocent dog" might get harmed, I would have violated the very laws I swore an oath to uphold.

As for the rest of your tempertantrum, If you want to lose your life or freedom over a dog, then that is your choice. No judge is going to buy the excuse, "But your honor, they shot my dog."

 

[sidneymysnake]

How many times do I have to point out that this was not an illegal search of the property regardless of how you try to skew it. The police had every legal right to be in that yard (see previous posts)

My main goal when I go to work every morning is to return to my family safely that night, in one piece...if that means I end up shooting a dog while carrying out my duties, so be it. If I allowed a person to get away or a victim go unaided just because an "innnocent dog" might get harmed, I would have violated the very laws I swore and oath to uphold.

As for the rest of your tempertantrum, If you want to lose your life or freedom over a dog, then that is your choice.

You keep saying it like they found the girl in the yard - they didn't. If she had been in the yard common sense would have dictated that you would either hear the dog attacking the girl or in the very least barking at her.