Does everything happen for a reason?

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For those that belive in things to be predetermined... sit on your couch for the next ten years and let me know how it goes for you. My dad tells a story about becoming harsh to a mother after she meerly closed her eyes as her youg son darted into traffic, after repremanding her for doing nothing she said something about not interferring with his fate, it was what they belived in. In my mind your free will and choices are the only things that will lead you to your "fate".

To add to the other side of the argument do I hope in my heart that my son was meant to be born to me and only me. That sometimes those that I love that have passed have steered me in one direction rather than another at some moment that I absolutely needed them to. Thats sometimes when something profound occurs from what seems to be just incedible circustances that some type of outside influences was involved in the events, sure I do believe it but I also know that you see what you want to see.
 
frasertheking;4303037; said:
i never understand how people who say everythings pre determined or guided by god or believe in karma.

what exactly did africas do to be born in a third world country ?
to have half there kids die before they are 5.

i just think we get what we take from the world.

ive seen far to many kids lifes destroyed by drug addicts and seen what happens to these kids to think anyone is guiding it
why is it murders are allowed to destroy families for no good reason
if someone is up there he must be a real bastard and has a lot to answer for.
its hard to take that there is nothing looking after us but then that means you can do anything if you really want to in life

This goes back to my earlier post. Why do you assume that if there is a reason or a purpose everything must be positive?
Why is it that having bad things equals there not being "someone up there"?
If I write down a bunch of good things does that mean that now there is?
 
I feel that SOME things can happen for a reason, not all. I also believe that there is a divine power that does often intervene in our lives. I don't think that man can totally control his own destiny. We can only control it up to a point. At some point, it's out of our hands and left up to fate.
 
hamato_yoshii;4303306; said:
This goes back to my earlier post. Why do you assume that if there is a reason or a purpose everything must be positive?
Why is it that having bad things equals there not being "someone up there"?
If I write down a bunch of good things does that mean that now there is?


There are two forces -- Good and Evil.
 
phillydog1958;4303334; said:
There are two forces -- Good and Evil.

Good and evil are objectable as the definition of both are deturminate on your prospective. And sense we as humans are not all knowing, we cannot know if our perspectives are the correct ones. Therefore good and evil are irrelevant.
 
mqktandy;4303350; said:
Good and evil are objectable as the definition of both are deturminate on your prospective. And sense we as humans are not all knowing, we cannot know if our perspectives are the correct ones. Therefore good and evil are irrelevant.


There are some things that are simply considered GOOD and some things that are considered BAD. Many of them are universal to all societies, no matter how primitive or sophisticated they may be. Good and evil are always relevant to all societies. Knowledge of what is good and evil are what makes us different from all living creatures. Without some knowledge of what is good and what is evil, we would dwell in total chaos.
 
phillydog1958;4303334; said:
There are two forces -- Good and Evil.
Ever seen Donnie Darko. If so this post reminds me of the teacher telling the students that there are only good and evil things in life. A great movie, if you've never seen it. Also....I agree with this post.

mqktandy;4303350; said:
Good and evil are objectable as the definition of both are deturminate on your prospective. And sense we as humans are not all knowing, we cannot know if our perspectives are the correct ones. Therefore good and evil are irrelevant.

Hmmm, don't agree with you though. :D
 
mqktandy;4303350; said:
Good and evil are objectable as the definition of both are deturminate on your prospective. And sense we as humans are not all knowing, we cannot know if our perspectives are the correct ones. Therefore good and evil are irrelevant.


One more point, all societies has some sort of a judicial system in place, which are founded on the premise of GOOD and EVIL. Good and Evil dictates our laws.
 
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