EBJD x BGJD - 2nd try!

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Looks like you have a full blown project there..22 ebs growout? lol...what are you going to do with them when they mature? Do you thing the pairs are getting distracted by each others? You can also try slate or large flat rocks. The females may just need a desired spot to lay eggs on...
 
Not to derail the topic, but I have been out the cichlids community for a while now, and was wondering if all the BGJD were males or was this the choice of breeders. It seem like every time i see a breeding pair the male is awalys the EBJD and female the BGJD. Why is that? Or there not many females EBJD available, and if that'ts not the case why not breed two EBJD together, is it harder of something. Just curious.

There are female ebjds out there but I think the general consensus is that ebjds are weaker/less aggressive than normal jds and that males are more aggressive than females. Male jd is very likely to kill/hurt a female ebjd in the breeding process. Breeding two ebjds will not produce viable fry (at least at this point). Common belief is that ebjds have weaker recessive gene due to heavy in-breeding, the fry from two ebjd parents may hatch but will not survive. I think there are people out there who try to achieve that by adding more and more “regular jd blood” into the gene pool. One day there will be ebjds that are as hardy as the normal type then two ebjds will be able to produce healthy fry. Again, I’m no expert in genetic and fish, my opinion is based on reading and breeding of these fish.
 
There are female ebjds out there but I think the general consensus is that ebjds are weaker/less aggressive than normal jds and that males are more aggressive than females. Male jd is very likely to kill/hurt a female ebjd in the breeding process. Breeding two ebjds will not produce viable fry (at least at this point). Common belief is that ebjds have weaker recessive gene due to heavy in-breeding, the fry from two ebjd parents may hatch but will not survive. I think there are people out there who try to achieve that by adding more and more “regular jd blood” into the gene pool. One day there will be ebjds that are as hardy as the normal type then two ebjds will be able to produce healthy fry. Again, I’m no expert in genetic and fish, my opinion is based on reading and breeding of these fish.

Thanks for the information
Very Interesting, I have not seen any information about EBJD, how did this fish even get started? Also how big are the males growing are they getting as large as a BGJD ?
 
Thanks for the information
Very Interesting, I have not seen any information about EBJD, how did this fish even get started? Also how big are the males growing are they getting as large as a BGJD ?

Some believe that they were found accidentally by someone who bred two wild caught JDs in Argentina. I never really go in-depth with their origin, all I know is they're beautiful fish and that coloration is unmatched among other freshwater fish. If the ebs are simply jds carrying recessive genes, I guess they should have the potential to grow as large as the normal type but I never keep one long enough to see their maximum growth.

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Looks like you have a full blown project there..22 ebs growout? lol...what are you going to do with them when they mature? Do you thing the pairs are getting distracted by each others? You can also try slate or large flat rocks. The females may just need a desired spot to lay eggs on...

I will likely have to sell some off as they mature, but I have enough tanks now to comfortably house a dozen or so adults. The two males seem somewhat distracted by each other, but one male is chasing the female to the top of the tank. The other pair swim side by side with no signs of aggression... or breeding. If they continue to distract each other, I will switch my divider from egg crate to Poret foam so they can't see each other. I will try adding some slate and flat rocks. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
EBJD was first recognized in Argentina, though I don't recall if it was observed in the wild or spawned from a wild pair. A few years ago, Jeff Rapps paid to have the EBJD's DNA studied and it was confirmed that EBJD is genetically the same as the standard JD and is in no way a hybrid.
 
Hello gentlemen.

I am new to the forum but have had aquariums in one shape or another for over 15 years (since i was a kid.) I am trying to start an EBJD tank but I am looking at buy some really blue ebjd, kind of like andrew has in the profile pic. Any idea where I can find some and have them shipped? I am in Monterey, CA atm.
 
Hello gentlemen.

I am new to the forum but have had aquariums in one shape or another for over 15 years (since i was a kid.) I am trying to start an EBJD tank but I am looking at buy some really blue ebjd, kind of like andrew has in the profile pic. Any idea where I can find some and have them shipped? I am in Monterey, CA atm.

I have some for sale and I can ship in a week or two. I'm just waiting on shipping supplies. You can pm me for more details.
 
Alright, awesome. How exactly do I pm you however? Trying to figure that out. Or you can PM me with price/pics? I am trying to look for those nice specimens and willing to pay extra, is the deep blue like in Andrew's pic due to the lighting, the sort of ebjd line, or a pic of a large/older fish?
 
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