Why not? Fights between cichlids happen in the wild. Also, what about a predator attacking it and it managed to get away but was still badly injured? It would have been finished.dominicolas;2568883; said:
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HerCrenVie;2568889; said:Why not? Fights between cichlids happen in the wild. Also, what about a predator attacking it and it managed to get away but was still badly injured? It would have been finished.
Well, in a wild fight, the loosing fish would most likely flee when it has been beaten, but in a tank that's not possible. I think that if a natural environment means being at risk of being eaten by a bigger predator, then we should not try to mimic the natural environment, but rather do what we can to keep our fish alive and well... as I said before.
Fair enough. Still, you haven't told me why or how this > "A fish dying of causes apart from disease is better used as food for another animal instead of simply being discarded." is incorrect.dominicolas;2569042; said:Well, in a wild fight, the loosing fish would most likely flee when it has been beaten, but in a tank that's not possible. I think that if a natural environment means being at risk of being eaten by a bigger predator, then we should not try to mimic the natural environment, but rather do what we can to keep our fish alive and well... as I said before.
HerCrenVie;2569114; said:Fair enough. Still, you haven't told me why or how this > "A fish dying of causes apart from disease is better used as food for another animal instead of simply being discarded." is incorrect.
I never said that statement specifically was incorrect. I think the statement is true, but in this case, there was a third option. I think that feeding the fish was wrong, and I think that killing it otherwise would be wrong. I think he should have at least tried to revive the fish.
Actually, it is kinda cruel IMO to feet a fish to something like a piranah as piranah take bites and it's just a bad way to go out for one of your pets. If I were in the same situation (which I wouldn't be) I would kill the fish before I gave it to a piranah. Maybe kill it and then give it to the piranah. And that is if revival was truly and clearly not working.
Are your questions answered?
Then it's a case of whether you believe the OP, isn't it? He did say the fish was too badly injured to be saved. So you didn't believe him and now you're saying he should have tried to save the fish first.dominicolas;2569150; said:I never said that statement specifically was incorrect. I think the statement is true, but in this case, there was a third option. I think that feeding the fish was wrong, and I think that killing it otherwise would be wrong. I think he should have at least tried to revive the fish.
Actually, it is kinda cruel IMO to feet a fish to something like a piranah as piranah take bites and it's just a bad way to go out for one of your pets. If I were in the same situation (which I wouldn't be) I would kill the fish before I gave it to a piranah. Maybe kill it and then give it to the piranah. And that is if revival was truly and clearly not working.
Are your questions answered?
HerCrenVie;2569189; said:Then it's a case of whether you believe the OP, isn't it? He did say the fish was too badly injured to be saved. So you didn't believe him and now you're saying he should have tried to save the fish first.
Not completely.
It's not that I don't believe the op. I don't think he is lying, but I think he is wrong. I believe, and I know this is conjecture, but I think that he just didn't give the fish a chance after he found it beat up. I believe this was caused by ignorance, laziness, and disreguard for the fish.
Also, feeding a live pet fish to a piranah seems cruel to me. Not that theres anything wrong with piranah, but dieing one bite at a time is a rough way to go out. And I'm not a person who thinks that fish shouldn't be fed live food, but feeding is no excuse for excess cruelty to a fish.
"Excess cruelty"? What would you have done then? If the piranha chomped straight into the Escondido's head, death would be instant. Of course, we don't know whether that was the case, but neither can you assume that the piranha took its time to torture the Escondido.dominicolas;2569293; said:Not completely.
It's not that I don't believe the op. I don't think he is lying, but I think he is wrong. I believe, and I know this is conjecture, but I think that he just didn't give the fish a chance after he found it beat up. I believe this was caused by ignorance, laziness, and disreguard for the fish.
Also, feeding a live pet fish to a piranah seems cruel to me. Not that theres anything wrong with piranah, but dieing one bite at a time is a rough way to go out. And I'm not a person who thinks that fish shouldn't be fed live food, but feeding is no excuse for excess cruelty to a fish.
HerCrenVie;2569340; said:"Excess cruelty"? What would you have done then? If the piranha chomped straight into the Escondido's head, death would be instant. Of course, we don't know whether that was the case, but neither can you assume that the piranha took its time to torture the Escondido.
Your right, that's an asumption I really can't make. I was thinking somewhere that the op said it took a few bites, but after checking, he said two. Reguardless of that. He should not have let the fish get beat-up so badly, and he should not have imediately fed it to another fish.
people on this site like to slam the new guys, its like survival of the fittest, the ones who stay end up being apart of the mfk family!
Xilomaniac;2568538; said:You've never had any of the fish i have, so your making assumptions. You can't make generalizations on behaviors because you have fish from the same region,..
None of this helps anyway,..
i have owned cyanos and currently own a 6 inch escondido, and they near exact in all aspects, they dont call them green texas for nothin. its possible the fish was too far gone, possible it wasnt thats all opinion, sorry for your loss either way, still kinda suprised you fed it to your rpb, i could never do that to one of my fish
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