Florida Frost taking care of invasive exotics problem?

[Louie]

Yes, that's what I was referring to. I know if I want to harvest a native reptile like a common snapper from here I legally need a State fishing license for that particular species. Some species we can't keep all together. My state doesn't come close to having the number of non-natives as Florida so I was curious how it works down there. If I was to move to Miami, would I need a permit to legally own my Jaguar Cichild? I sure hope not.

No you would not need a permit to keep your cichlid regardless of type. The state is actually very lenient other than pirahnas and rays.


They even sell them in every pet store and fish farms. During summer many are giving them away on craigs list as so many fry in their pond though this yr might be different due to many pond fish dieing.

People catch them and keep them by the buckets full (cast net ) to eat and take them home alive with FWC wardens right there and others like myself only catch and release with FWC wardens there .

Its the pirahna that they want dead .

I think the state(Miami) has accepted Cichlids ,see's them as revenue as many come to fish for them and doesn't see them as a problem.

 

[krichardson]

There are bunches of croc in the Glades, there are even some in the Sanibel area. I used to snook fish near the nesting site of a huge female croc. She could be a little aggressive.

I just bet that she could.Whats the max size of these crocs,do they outgrow the gators?

 

[armac]

She was around 12 feet and at three in the morning she would ease up to the dock we were fishing on and try to take our snook away from us. For those that know the area it was on the inside area of Blind Pass.

We caught over 100 snook in 2 nights off the piers there.

 

[Louie]

I just strolled a local canal the other day, and there were around a hundred dead spotted tilapia within just a few feet, its one of the shallower canals around and got colder than most, there were still some survivors but very few. I saved two jaguar cichlids that i assume would have been dead overnight. My canal is deeper and I've only seen one dead mayan cichlid and have still seen a number alive. As for my own personal account I have lost both my pbass and a mayan, my heaters werent strong enough for the cold I guess although I had two mayan and a tilapia survive as well so I guess some are just more sensitive.

Sorry you lost some cichlids. I brought mine inside but its going back to normal end of week so they and turtles go back out.
I use heaters like you for cool nights but the constant cold was another story.

"around a hundred dead spotted tilapia within just a few feet, its one of the shallower canals around and got colder than most, there were still some survivors but very few"

I hate to hear that. I found over the summer a shallow 8 inches tops "pond" with fire mouths. Lots of them great colors . it was such a pain hike that I never went back .
I suspect they are dead now .

The shallow canals which cichlids love like yours must have lots of death.

 

[Louie]

She was around 12 feet and at three in the morning she would ease up to the dock we were fishing on and try to take our snook away from us. For those that know the area it was on the inside area of Blind Pass.

We caught over 100 snook in 2 nights off the piers there.

"She was around 12 feet and at three in the morning she would ease up to the dock we were fishing on and try to take our snook away from us."

oh wow thats neat. I wouldnt know a gator from a croc but anything 12 feet is very impressive.
I have never seen any gator close to that .

Think crocs can kill gators?

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

now u have me thinking about sanibel. thanks
i love that island!!

i thought they were endagered? like only a few hundred(if that) left?

 

[Louie]

heres one of my jags

Nice glad you saved them. The cichlids add a lot to Miami.

 

[krichardson]

Those snook are nice fish.The stores get little ones from time to time,swordspines,not the Petenia which are cichlids.

 

[Louie]

So are you Floridians allowed to legally keep non-natives as pets if they're established in your area?

When I first moved here I wanted a scarlet kingsnake. I emailed FWC and asked them if it was legal to collect and keep 1.

I told them I had a fishing license as heard you needed that to collect at the time .They said legal to collect/keep as long as not inside Glades itself .

I found a couple when I looked (outside park )but felt bad as they were free and happy so let them go where I found them.

Coral snakes color wise blow them away lol but wouldn't keep one.

 

[Louie]

found a few live cuban tree frogs here today. they lasted so I am sure that most of everything else has too. I really do not think that the invasive reptiles are as much of a problem as everyone thinks and the ones that we should be worried about are the ones that do not get any attention like the cuban tree frog and the brown anole that are killing off and out competing the green tree frog and green anole. Pythons are not hunting anything except for things that are very prevalent and they are not harming populations or out competing anything except themselves. If anything, the pythons just filled the void that was left after humans extripated the top predator that was the FL leopard.

You didnt find dead geckos?

Lots dead babies here none recovered from being "frozen" .