Getting a gun

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

With all this talk about killing people, I just want to stress again - Is there anything in your house worth a human life? Its easy to talk about it and say youd kill. and in alot of cases it is easy. But we as a society should not take the killing of another human being so lightly. yes if someone broke into my house and took my 65" TV Id feel like I wanted to kill him. but its really not worth it. Controlling that impulse and making a rational decision is what separates us from the beasts of the wild. Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe theres a time for killing, but there is more often a time for restraint. I have many guns. and i tell my wife that if someone breaks in while im gone, to call 911 and get out of the house. I dont want her in a gun fight and i dont want her to have to live with killing someone.
trust me, unless youre a total sociopath, when youre standing over the body of your intruder watching him bleed out onto your carpet, you are not going to feel good. You wont be high-fiving your roommate while the intruder gurgles and wheezes on the floor. Regardless of if the shooting is justified, what you will have done is take a child away from a mother. take a husband away from a wife? brothers from sisters? This quanta of grief will be by your hand and you will have to decide if you made the world a better place by visiting so much misery upon people you never knew, who did nothing against you, over some meager possessions in your house.
Youve got to live with every life you take.

yep, my wife and child. and yes if you enter my house while im here, IMHO you entered with full entent to harm my family or myself. There for the instant you enter my house you WILL end up DRT. No questions. Id rather live with the fact that i took a life than live with the fact that i failed to protect my family.

I could give a crap less if i took someones family member away. If they broke into my house i need to look out for number one not them. My family is number one. end of story.

 

[SemperFish]

your tactical advantage wasnt there to start with. as they blind sighted you sleeping

Exactly correct. If we're talking tactics, you never choose a fight where you dont have an advantage. Fight on your terms whenever possible. Avoid the fights the enemy wants. If you wake up and hes over your bed, it doesnt matter how many guns you have, youve already lost. If you wake up because he's in your living room the situation is much different.
Lacking information in the dead of night, my first priority is keeping my family safe. which means getting them out of the house and away from danger. Staying in place and waiting for them to come to you gives you the advantage. This is assuming you dont know who has broken in, how they are armed- if at all, and how many there are. The second you start making decisions based on ego and the impulse to kick their @$$ because they broke into your house, you give them advantage.
My original point remains the same though - people have way too casual an attitude about killing. Its an easy thing to say.

 

[mqktandy]

Man with the main exemption of semperfish most ppl on this thread really have no clue what they are talking about. After yrs with the special forces and more training than prob anyone on here I'll say this. You don't have wat it takes to shot someone. Wich is a good thing. Even with a gun more than likely you will miss. Squeezing that trigger on your first live target isn't as easy as the video games you kids play. So get a security system, or move.

 

[beex215]

Exactly correct. If we're talking tactics, you never choose a fight where you dont have an advantage. Fight on your terms whenever possible. Avoid the fights the enemy wants. If you wake up and hes over your bed, it doesnt matter how many guns you have, youve already lost. If you wake up because he's in your living room the situation is much different.
Lacking information in the dead of night, my first priority is keeping my family safe. which means getting them out of the house and away from danger. Staying in place and waiting for them to come to you gives you the advantage. This is assuming you dont know who has broken in, how they are armed- if at all, and how many there are. The second you start making decisions based on ego and the impulse to kick their @$$ because they broke into your house, you give them advantage.
My original point remains the same though - people have way too casual an attitude about killing. Its an easy thing to say.

i absolutely understand your main point. actions speaks louder than words.

i high lighted the sentence you wrote. you dont know what they are thinking. combine that with what you think they are going to do. you act upon that. = scary scary stuff. it might seem un winnable but, all the gods were in my favor that day. i would go into details but maybe at some other time.





that is all. good day

 

[CLDarnell]

Its hard to imagine this whole topic started over a break in that took place when the owner wasn't home and the only thing stolen was an old cell phone.

There's a lot of bravado going on here...and the actual heros are the ones being conservative.

 

[Wiggles92]

Man with the main exemption of semperfish most ppl on this thread really have no clue what they are talking about. After yrs with the special forces and more training than prob anyone on here I'll say this. You don't have wat it takes to shot someone. Wich is a good thing. Even with a gun more than likely you will miss. Squeezing that trigger on your first live target isn't as easy as the video games you kids play. So get a security system, or move.

Valid point.

I have no experience with dealing with this type of stuff on a personal level, but I know that 99% of us say that we would pull that trigger in defense of ourselves, our loved ones, and property, but as you said, most of us don't have what it takes in the end hence my previous recommendation of a security system over a firearm just as you made here.

 

[Miguel]

Man with the main exemption of semperfish most ppl on this thread really have no clue what they are talking about. After yrs with the special forces and more training than prob anyone on here I'll say this. You don't have wat it takes to shot someone. Wich is a good thing. Even with a gun more than likely you will miss. Squeezing that trigger on your first live target isn't as easy as the video games you kids play. So get a security system, or move.

Exactly my point.

 

[Gobrian44]

DESERT EAGLE

 

[mqktandy]

You may pull that trigger. But I have seen first hand what 99% of ppl do. They have a slight unconscious flinch a moment of adrenaline fueled panic that lasts a millisecond. A millisecond where your true humanity shows and with that moment of clarity u realize exactly what you are taking. Than the round goes off and you miss. I've seen it happen I'm sure most ppl in the military have seen it at least once. This occurrence isn't a weakness or a bad thing it shows you that ppl aren't all evil. Just like everything else it just gets easier after that but I would hope you never have to deal with that. When u kill someone even in self defense or "for your country" u not only kill them you kill a small piece of yourself. Just something to think about.

 

[Mattyou]

It's good to know how the majority on here feel. If I ever need anything and feel like stealing it at least my chances of getting shot are pretty low.